So it Begins: This State Forces LGBT “Accommodation” Rules on its Churches

What about them? My response was to the false claim that religion does not force anything on anyone. A lie.
It's irrelevant why homosexuality exists, if people wake up one morning (which is a laughable notion) and decide to be gay they should be treated no differently than any other citizen. Individual choice does not exempt ones from rights and freedoms

 

I agree, slavery has not existed in generations and experienced by no one alive today while gays have been denied freedoms and rights very recently. No correlation indeed.

 

Then don't pretend the two can be equated. Pretty simple.

What makes homosexuality worthy of special rights over other sexual preferences? Can you explain your justification?

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Name one law in our society that forces people to believe in Jesus. I'd love to see it.

Then why aren't all sexual preferences worthy of the same treatment? Let's at least be honest enough to acknowledge they aren't.

 

I never attempted to compare the two.

What special rights do homosexuals have that other consensual "sexual preferences" do not have? Were people that enjoy rough sex kicked out of the military? Were people that have a foot fetish refused the right to marry? Or are you trying to compare homosexuals to child rape?

There are none - just like serving a cake does not violate anyone's religious freedoms - I said religion forces laws on to others. This is not up for debate - it is fact.

It depends on which "sexual preference" you are referring to.

 

No one os asking for special rights no matter how many time you say it. Just equal rights. All sexual preferences are not worthy of the same treatment because the state has a compelling interest in denying rights to some sexual preferences. This really is pretty basic stuff

 

Religion does not override the constitution. If you are religious and say your beliefs are human sacrifice, that doesn't mean you get to murder people. If you say your religion is to discriminate against blacks and not allow them to access to your church, you don't get to do that. Society, for everyone, is saying that gay people should not be discriminated against. Claiming that religion gives you that right is not true.

That constitution is what gives you the rights to claim a law is unjust. But claiming that your constitutional right to free speech overrides the laws to treat all people as equals is going to be a hard sell. Just because religion is your claimed motivation, rather than hatred or dislike, doesn't just give a pass to discrimination laws.

 

There are, marriage benefits for homosexual activity is a special privilege.
Homosexual activity does not required government involvement because it is strictly private.
If government provides benefits to certain group of people without any kind of identifiable reason it is definitely special privilege.

On the other hand, relationship between man and woman is public matter it is strictly regulated, that is why marriage is offered to heterosexual couples.

 

How is a relationship between a man and a woman a public matter? This legal theory has never come up before and I find it interesting and amusing

 

Spot on.

 

Force on you so they should go into hiding once more so their very existence is hidden from you?

 

As long as it involved consenting adults the state have no compelling interest or right to get involved.

 

WHich laws though? the only one I can truly think of are ones against gay marriage. There are some quirky laws in the books but nobody gets a ticket for anal sex .

 

Then don't defend it.

State recognized marriage. The ability to punish people who don't agree with their lifestyle to name 2.

Which of course I never did but thanks for showing your true colors.

Then don't claim we force religion on others in law.

According to you who doesn't share those religious beliefs.

Then name one law that does. I'm still waiting for you to prove what you claim.

Any other. Take your pick. Still waiting.

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Then name the compelling reasons. This BS you are spewing must be challenged to expose the hypocrisy you are putting on display. You can't even name a single reason why homosexuality acceptance and marriage legalization should be forced on everyone else without being voted on by the people.

 

No matter how many times I explain it you do not get it. Gay people don not have to make any case. They simply go before the court and demand the right. It is the STATE that must make the case of compelling interest in denying them the right. Lets take pedophiles. They want to be granted the right to marry 12 year olds. They go before the court and the court says it has a compelling interest in protecting 12 year olds who are not ready for marriage. NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A COMPELLING INTEREST FOR DENYING MARRIAGE TO GAYS. I can not make it any clearer to you. The burden is on the state.

 

Sure you did. You claimed I said something that I never said. And when challenged you ducked.

 

People used to end up in prison for having ana sex and it took a SC ruling in 2003 repeat 2003 to stop that from happening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas

 

Yeah, how dare the government allow them to go to the bathroom. The nerve, the absolute nerve!

 

Well you know the fruit loops have lost gay marrage so they need something else to get them meddling in other people business.

 

Yes I know all about this particular law.

Now please show me a link that shows the last person who was arrested to having the butt sex please.

 

Of course it is a public matter in civil (marriage) and criminal (assault). And, yes, marriage is for heterosexual and homosexual couples.

 

Please feel free to give me the science that shows where DNA controls sexuality. Bet you can't.

 

Except of course it has already bern done. Ha, ha.

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You stupids used to say that gays were a genetic disability.

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And your imaginary fact is?

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And your imaginary fact is?

 

I would like to buy alcohol on Sunday for one.
And sodomy is still illegal (though unenforceable due to constitutional rule) throughout the nation.

 

So why are you going to let hermaphrodites use whatever bathroom they want and yet deny transgenders their choice. Tell us what personal risk you find different between the two groups. What are you really afraid of? Why do you feel threatened? Do you not lock your stall? Are you afraid of someone peeping at your pee pee.