Defunding Planned Parenthood would lead to thousands more births, CBO says

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  1. Bridget

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    I don't think tax money should be given to any non-profit, Planned Parenthood, or any other either. I happen to think it should be the taxpayers choice of which charity to give their money to, or for that matter whether to or not. If a charity does good work and there is TRULY A NEED for it to exist, it will be alright. Some would go the way of the dinosaurs no doubt, but that is the way it should be because there are too many non-profits around anyway.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    What clinics healthcare clinics? Or abortion clinic?
     
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    To be fair you would not have been forced as you did the deed did you not ? We're you unaware at the time of the risks?
     
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    The left are not responsible for themselves or their actions. If someone has an unwanted pregnancy, it was obviously forced upon them. No self accountability whatsoever.
     
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    Not PP clinics, just places where women who need them can get abortion services. Reasonable people would say 1 clinic for every 700k plus woman and a 350 mile drive to get there is not "available."
     
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    Well since you aren't relying on federal dollars for abortion services, why doesn't someone open abortion clinics so it's more readily available?
     
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    And so we're back to the REAL argument. You and yours want to punish women for having sex that is not related to reproduction.

    You don't actually care about the children one way or the other. After all, look at the way you treat them once born. It's all about enforcing your particular view of morality on the world around you.

    Fortunately, the Constitution denies government that power.
     
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    Ah so it is all about abortion! Finally we are getting somewhere
     
  9. RP12

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    Science is punishing women? What a wacky way to think
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They were open. The law, later found unconstitutional, forced more than half to close. The doctors and staff at those facilities have moved on. FORTUNATELY...PP is still alive and kicking in Texas to serve those women abused by your heroes.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    But I thought the federal money had nothing to do with abortion. That is entirely seperate so how would removing the federal funding possibly affect their abortions?

    Are you suggesting because they DO get federal funding they can provide more abortions?
     
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    Ain't no sin in science and no science in you.

    You said it...

    "To be fair you would not have been forced as you did the deed did you not ? We're you unaware at the time of the risks?"

    Translated as "Children are a punishment from God for your sexual sins."
     
  13. One Mind

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    If a woman does not want an unwanted baby, how about this? Use birth control and to be even safer, demand the male puts on a rubber. But no, we should never expect women to be responsible human beings. It is utter nonsense. Many of our problems, especially social problems could be fixed by not being irresponsible. Why should the working people of this nation have to pay for irresponsible behavior?

    I reckon democrats think it is a god given right to be irresponsible and then have responsible people pay for this behavior. Well, that is screwed up, wrong, and absurd. But the dems are a circus of absurdity, which is one reason they chose Hillary, the most hated woman in America to be their candidate, with the DNC even committing antidemocratic acts in order to insure the much better candidate would not beat her.

    Abortion being legal is one thing, and subsidizing irresponsibility quite another. Free abortions even promotes irresponsible behavior which means dems promote irresponsible behavior. In a time when birth control is so easy, by just taking a pill, or getting an implant. Are these women too damn lazy to even take the pill? With many of them laying on their arses screwing like rabbits to where they do not even know which man is the father. Let them do this on their own dime. And not a conservative, but an FDR kinda liberal. This isn't a left right issue, It is an issue of promoting irresponsible behavior.
     
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    "If you've got no more money honey I've got no more time"

    There can be a clinic on every corner and a pharmacy on the opposite corner but unless you have the money it doesn't matter.
     
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    What does that have to do with federal funding of PP?
     
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    Oh I get it you hate religion and since I don't agree with you you base my every word on your own hate. I am agnostic now run along until you can debate without projecting your own hate onto me
     
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    I disagree, this argument, like too many others of yours, is full of false assumptions, i.e., "women's health other than abortions to fund PP ". It is on record that PP does more than abortions. The reality is, most in the US want it, which was another incorrect assumption on your part.
     
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    Never said it. Never implied it. To say so is to lie.
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    What does that have to do with anything?

    Try again

    Sure they have access to the hundreds more Women's Health Clinics. That's a Democrat canard. Go to the PP website and look up my state of Alabama and then come back. Here is what it will tell you, there are two clinics one in Birmingham and one in Montgomery. Smack in the middle of our two largest cities. Surrounded by other women's health resources that provide every service they provide except abortion. None in the rural areas. Do ALL the women in my state go to PP for their health care? Do a majority of women in my state go to PP for their health care? Does even a significant fraction? Hardly So tell me why they above every other women's health clinic in my state are so vital that they MUST receive federal funding especially since all those women now have health insurance and they can go to their doctor now.
     
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    Refer back to the original question. Stay focused.
     
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    When you want to argue something I said let m know nor did I state about what most in the US want.

    Do try to focus.
     
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    BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY

    AND

    In Alabama lots and lots of poor women DONT HAVE INSURANCE. The result of your decision not to expand Medicaid. Can't get Medicaid, can't afford insurance, where do they turn? Planned Parenthood.
     
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    I did

    You started with this

    Then when presented with the fact their LOTS AND LOTS of clinics other than PP that provide access to health services you switched to abortions based on the Texas law.

    Federal funds can't be used for abortion so what does that have to do with PP federal funding?
     
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    What does that have to do with Planned Parenthood. PP is NOT a free clinic. And PP is ONLY in the two largest cities most of the poor women are out in rural counties where other clinics provide health services let's give them the money. And yes they can get Medicaid if they are poor and there are free community clinics and they of course have Obamacare.
     
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    Some people don't have money for a lot of things what is your point t?
     

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