MOAB (mother of all bombs) dropped for first time.

How did we make sure secular Arabs were in control? I don't understand what you are saying.

 

Libya, Iraq, Iran, Egypt... now Syria.

All secular, socialist Arabs put in place by the west to keep radical Islam in check.

Now all betrayed by the west to put in new radical rulers.

I don't care how many Kardashian fans find it easier to get their politics spoon fed to them by actors.

To the globalist reading this, you are declaring war on the citizenry of the west. Just because you control all the largest soap boxes won't change the reaction that will follow as more and more catch onto the fact.

 

We didn't put any of those leaders in place... and they were very different. Gaddafi and Saddam were slightly mad, Mubarak was a corrupt strongman .. Assad was an insecure, painfully shy man who doesn't know how to govern except to emulate his father.

 

The bullying cowards in the Senate are desperately trying to get Julian Assange deported to the US; they probably want to send him there so they can wash their hands of him. What a disgusting abuse of absolute power against the individual! And it could be any of us?

 

Pathetic. Good luck keeping control appealing to the lowest common denominator that still believes the BS.

 

The US has NO control over the citizens who hate those guys because of years of brutal oppression. There are a number of books about Assad that explain what has happened in Syria.

I knew a lot about Gaddafi because I was living in Libya when he ousted Idris and threw out the constitution. You can't reinvent these bad guys.

 

No, Margot is more correct that you were. Saddam and Gaddafi rose to power through the overthrow of western backed governments. Though I agree with you that they have all been betrayed by the west

 

Thank you. I don't know if the Iraqi people ever liked Saddam, but I know the Libyans hated Gaddafi. Bashar Assad was a new hope for Syria in 2000 but by 2004, the Syrians hated him and he simply did away with the opposition.

 

Facts vs opinion:
- all these nations go from 80% literacy to about 10%. Lack of education breeds easy recruits.
- radical Muslims are 10xs worse for the average citizens of the world in charge of these nations than any totalitarian dictator isolated by a 3rd world GDP. Like all of globalism, the top are the only beneficiaries on the backs of the rest. Everything else is smoke.
- the past 40 years has been nothing but globalists saying, "trust us", while we all get screwed. What political capital in ANY western nation do you believe you have to stand on?

I am a dirt bag nobody from America, and I could make you look like a liar at any dinner table, from coast to coast.

It is seriously dangerous how clueless globalists are as to where western working classes are at with globalist rule. You all would go completely silent - as you would know there is nothing left to say.

 

There is a difference between hate and willing acceptance. Saddam made it safer for the average Iraqi and it made no difference on which religion you were - Sunni, Shia, Christian etc were all treated the same. The only people in danger were those that threatened his power - it was not unknown for people to disappear, his relatives were probably most at risk. So yes, many did hate him but accepted that the country was better with him in power. I don't agree with you about Gaddafi and I don't know enough about Assad

 

Is this a competition? Literacy and poverty in Egypt is horrible.. Same with Yemen inspite of massive investments by the Saudis in the past 25 years. Afghanistan's literacy rates have plummeted since the mid 1970s.

Literacy in Libya improved dramatically under programs established by Idris. I am sure Syria is suffering because kids can't go to school ... and polio is on the rise.

The US has no magic to keep a bad leader in power.

 

Saddam, Gaddafi, and Assad all rise to power with the approval of the west. The images of western handshakes are endless.

Their nations were better off with them. We were safer with them in charge. The only beneficiaries are central bankers hell bent on world rule and chicken hawk war profiteers.

I don't know what's worse, the facts at hand, or the nerve of the perpetrators - conversing like a bank robber bragging how good he is in business.

 

I agree with you to a point. As long as things were quiet, we didn't care who ran Syria, Iraq or Libya. But, the fact remains that the US couldn't keep those guys in power. The only possible way to do so would have required huge occupation forces in each country. We invaded Iraq.. We didn't invade Syria, Libya or Egypt.

 

Taliban have killed 140+ Afghan soldiers today Saturday 22 April. If this is a revenge attack for the MOAB, then the MOAB was a strategic failure.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...lled-in-taliban-attack-on-afghan-base.502861/

How did that Iraq misadventure turn out?

The USA financed and armed the Taliban and Al Qaeda in the 1980s to commit acts of terrorism against Afghans and Russians. How did that turn out?

 

The dual citizen neocons of the PNAC were keen to invade Iraq.. and that was a huge blunder as anticipated.

We armed the Afghans in our proxy war with the Russians.

Is there some reason you are addressing me on those disastrous campaigns?

 

LOL! The MOAB destroyed a massive cave complex and killed thier fighters.....that is a big success.

 

The MOAB killed people. The military has a practice of calling all dead people fighters because the dead are unable to deny the accusation.

The military has a practice of inflating body counts of dead people they call the enemy.

MOAB destroyed a cave complex? You know that how? US military said so?

 

There is video of it and no one is disputing it.

 

No there isn't! Or perhaps you can post the video showing that cave complex

 

Sure there is.

 

Anybody can fake a video.

 

Got proof the video is fake?

 

Got proof it's not faked in any way?

$500 million buys a whole lot of fake. US military has a history of faking military propaganda.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-fake-al-qaeda-propganda-videos-a7348371.html

 

Meh, you are making the claim.....prove it.

 

MOAB strike is a fake. Air burst is supposed to destroy everything in a 1 km radius.

Shacks and trees are still standing in the video below.

The MOAB strike was a fake.