Trump revealed highly classified information to Russians in meeting, officials say Pt 2

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  1. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Once again… out of who's mouth did the details of the ISIS plot come? I'll help you out here… Trump. Trump is your leaker. Why are you more concerned that the information got to the American people than you are that Trump is telling Russians matters of our national security?

    The meeting was documented by a note taker, from Trump's team, and no American journalists were in the room. Trump said it. Trump's team recorded it…. and it became an official White House document at that time, open to a FOIA request. Of course, reporters were going to ask what happened in the meeting. Of course staff would tell them things that happened…. even reading the notes to the reporters. The problem is those notes shouldn't have had secrets in them, because Trump shouldn't have given them secrets.

    So the leak came from within the White House, because it was reported in notes that TRUMP SAID IT. The Washington Post specifically said the information came from the notes. The leaker is Trump. He told the secrets, in a meeting with his own notetaker.. notes that would be made public, as they are official White House documents.

    If you don't want to blame Trump, fine, but he is to blame. He told the secrets to people that didn't have the clearance to know it, and not just any ol' person… Russia. Had that been anyone other than Trump, they would go to jail. The only reason Trump isn't going to jail is because he has executive privilege.

    Since then, other information has come out of that meeting using the notes. People expect to know what the President is doing and saying in the White House to foreign dignitaries, especially Russians, since they've been in the news just a little bit recently.

    If you want to hang someone, hang Trump. All this mess is on him.
     
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    True.

    Trump is obviously trying to hide something.

    I just can't wait to see how he will react to a subpoena of all of his tax information.

    My guess is that he will defy the subpoena and force the SCOTUS to get involved.

    Trump--the poor, thin-skinned, little SNOWFLAKE in Chief.
     
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  3. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm tired of "winning." I hope he resigns, but I really think what will get him is money laundering.
     
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    It will be covered up politically by both parties as the will make a grand deal and push him to resign..........politics will play a role in the end as they all also want to cover their arses. Trump will issues quite a few friendly pardons before he leaves.
     
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    “We're not ever going to see the notes. They contain highly sensitive classified information…” (bois darc chunk) http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russians-in-meeting-officials-say-pt-2.504867/page-11#post-1067491780


    Now this is getting funny. So which is it?
     
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    "Non sequitur. Your facts are uncoordinated."
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only inevitable thing at this point is an opening of more mental institutions across the country with Starbucks permanently featured in each one, to make enraged Liberals transitioning in easier :eyepopping:
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you not read the news about scrubbing the classified information out of the notes? We won't see that. We've already had most of the rest reported, starting with the Russian blabbling, then the disrespectful Comey name calling, then the relief of "Russian pressure" by firing the FBI Director. I feel sure I linked this and quoted this from the original thread, and the original WaPo article.

    If you're wanting to play word "gotcha," find another playmate.

    I find it interesting you posted you would have preferred Bush or Kasich in another thread, but are so very defensive of Trump in this one, unless there is some partisan motive. Is that it? Do you see the issue with Trump, or not?
     
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    Dunno if we'd be better off with Hillary, margot

     
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    Still trolling? :)
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Speaking the truth my friend, always speaking the truth.
     
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    Both McMaster AND Tillerson said "highly classified" information sources and methods were NOT given out........



    From what I've read Bossert called the CIA and NSA and informed them of what was said, which for all intent and purposes could be simply a heads up just in case. The left media is simply herniating themselves to make something out of nothing.

    Nary a word out of the left media over this. The left is killing their own credibility in their frenzy to get Trump. That's my point. The time will come when the public is so burned out by the effort to torpedo Trump they simply won't be believed even when they tell the truth.
     
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    You still flogging that nonsense, tell it to the CIA and NSA that scrambles to notify the source that the operative was compromised. Keep up please.
     
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    I am not defending Trump, I am trying to get a fracking answer as to why the Democrats are not calling for the heads of the moles, and it is just nothing else comes to mind for not hanging the WAPO moles than the following:

    It is clear that the Socialist Democrats don’t want to hang the WAPO/”Soviet” moles, because the real collusion was to undermine those anti-socialists opposed to the Obamanation/”Soviet” lucrative Iran/”Soviet” deal and other Socialist/”Soviet” goals. The Party of Treason has now exposed themselves once again with their Deep State:

    "Some voices have risen on the part of some peoples, journalists, writers, and, in a very restricted way, the voices of those who are preparing themselves, in the shadow, to replace the rulers there. Nevertheless, the latter are still hesitant voices that deal with the situation in the light of the balance of interests of the posts they expect to occupy, and of the influence of the centers of power." (Saddam Hussein Shabban 13, 1422 H. October 29, 2001.)

    When I see proof that is nothing, there is no Deep State conspiracy, by some Democrats calling for the heads of the WAPO moles, and they are exposed and prosecuted, I will push your Clinton red reset button. Then I will have nothing else to talk about but the other issues including those involving Trump.

    You are now the ambassador, we will not shove Trump into the sea, or force Trump to give up the Wailing Wall, you are going to have to compromise and ask for the heads of the WAPO/Hamas squat to leak spies, then we can work on a comprehensive peace settlement.

    Do you support hanging by the neck until dead the WAPO sources who leaked the classified info to the press?
     
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    Post your source please.
     
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    Feel free to review the entire thread, lots there plus, their is an internal WH document of the meeting.
     
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    Not Really. The Russians already knew that Comey was a nut job.
     
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    Oh wow link to it so we can all read it.
     
  19. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wrote out a really long reply to this post and then changed my mind, and deleted it. I will support hanging the person that leaked to the Washington Post, as long as Trump, who actually leaked classified information to the Russians, is hanging right beside them. Both leaked to people without the appropriate clearance. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I will not ignore the substance of the information simply to punish a whistleblower fearful for the country and with no other way to stop Trump from leaking even more important and potentially dangerous information again. Did you ignore the content of the DNC emails and just push to punish Julian Assange? There were tons of post here on PF, saying how the emails were acquired made no difference. What mattered was the corruption exposed in them. If the substance mattered in the emails, then the substance matters with Trump leaking to the Russians.

    Someone has to stop Trump from doing this kind of thing again. He does not listen to his advisors. He does not listen to his lawyers. He does not listen to anyone. He does what he wants, when he wants, how he wants, and accepts no responsibility for it afterwards. He can't run my country and do that. He either changes his ways or he has to go. I don't wish him death, but what he did certainly could have caused someone else's death… someone doing us a favor by telling us an ISIS plot to commit a terrorist act against our country. Do the leakers have another way to protect the country and Constitution? If they had another option, they would have used it. When the only way to stop his bad behavior is to make it public, then it has to be made public. Trump is being investigated now because of his own actions. I hope he changes just as I cheer for my pilot to do a good job, but I don't expect he will. He's 70 years old.
     
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    Anonymous certainly is busy. We are not told who says these things. just take anonymous word.
    We don't know what was said. Classified?

    About what?
     
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    Focused on the minutia much? You are missing the big picture........National Security of the USA and that Trump has to be investigated until the intel community is certain with their findings to make a decision.
     
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    Did Nixon cover up a crime?
    Is that OK?
    Would we have known about it without Deep Throat?
    Should Nixon have been above the law?

    Sometimes anonymous is the good guy, even if they have to do something that might put them in jail, in order to save the country.

    Feel free to discount any anonymous source you like, but it would be naive and foolish to discount every anonymous source, just because they are anonymous. Sometimes they have to be, because otherwise powerful people get away with things that they shouldn't.
     
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    The President had the clearance, he is the one at the top of the Chain of Command; the leakers to WAPO should lose their clearance and their necks. There were never any calls for Obama’s impeachment for foreign policy and his giving a hell of a lot more than some tiny information to the Russians or Iranians.... If a plane full of Russian civilians is saved by the info, good.

    Anytime you are willing to go to war with Ecuador, or Russia for that other darling of the “liberals,” feel free to propose it to your Congressperson.

    You would have to search way back to the Iraq war and the leaks there, to find where I first saw “liberals” more interested protecting the leakers, than in the message that their squat to leak “freedom fighters” were using flower pot bombs to kill our troops. Go find the flower pot bombs, you will find your kind there defending the leakers and more interested in anything useful in attacking the just and justified Iraq war.
     
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    Focusing on whistle blowers is just the distraction from the real crimes. it's a mere talking point of Trump supporters now, BTW, the Republicans have blown whistles too, Chavetz is the one that released the classified Comey letter 10 days before the election so it's fair game. what's not fair game is the National Security of America & the WH.
     

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