WOW Mr President----------what a fantastic tour

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  1. katzgar

    katzgar Banned

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    SaaB Vauxhall and opal are not General Motors products it's that simple can't remember a French car maker owns and now it's been in the media. Actually it's my spell check that doesn't know how to spell them and I really don't give a rat's ass
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dear, I am not making that up. . .just read the articles I posted.

    The GM brand went bankrupt a couple times. The latest time was this year, where they had to sell both Saab and Opel!
     
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    Your post is just a flat lie
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean. . .all those sources I quoted are lying?

    Including this one:

    "General Motor’s exit from Europe comes after the company has failed to make money for nearly 20 years. CNN reports that Opel and Vauxhall have lost a combined $18 billion over the last 16 years, highlighting the struggle for General Motor’s European operations. It also comes at a time when the UK is preparing to exit the European Union, and there will be many questions over the Vauxhall brand and whether job losses are an inevitable part of this transaction. General Motors has manufactured popular cars like the Astra and Corsa, both of which are branded Opel across Europe and Vauxhall in Britain."
    "Los Angeles Times" said : GM sells its European business in $2.33 ...
    whybusines.blogspot.com/2017/03/los-angeles-times-said-gm-sells-its.html

    Why don't you present me with sources that show that my sources are lying.

    That would be fair, right?

    Or. . .just crawl in your hole and cut your losses. . .pretty much like GM had to do in Europe!
     
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    english just completely confuses you doesnt it
     
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    But he wasn't the one who left in tears from the meeting last week.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like you are the person who is having a serious issue with reading comprehension. . .and spelling! But, if you can present a source that says that Saab, Opel and Vauxhall were part of another brand than GM for the last 20 + years. . .I will seriously consider it. . .

    By the way, GM Europe sold these brands to PEUGEOT/Citroen AT THE END OF MARCH 2017, as stated in the articles I provided.

    "Peugeot seems confident it can turn things around and get Opel and Vauxhall back on track in Europe. “We are confident that the Opel / Vauxhall turnaround will significantly accelerate with our support, while respecting the commitments made by GM to the Opel/Vauxhall employees,” says Peugeot CEO Carlos Tavares."
     
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    Quote : That is really funny! You are accurately describing Trump! You do realise that, right?

    By the way. . .you do realise that most of the German cars sold in the US are MADE IN THE US? Right? And that some of those German cars made in the US are also made for export!

    Most are made in the poorest states. . .the most Red states, those who voted for Trump! Let see what happens when Germany decides to take their marbles and go home. . .and build their cars in Germany for exportation every place in the world!

    What happens to those thousands of jobs that are currently held by good old Trump's supporters in Red states?

    Trump reportedly wants to stop Germans from selling so many cars ...
    www.slate.com/.../moneybox/.../trump_reportedly_wants_to_stop_germans_from_sell.
    "The German carmakers have been quite aggressive in building up their U.S. operations, too. In 1994, BMW opened a plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina.Having invested $7.8 billion in the plant, BMW now boasts that it is the company’s largest single facility in the world. And it has spurred investments by a range of suppliers throughout the state. The cars made in Spartanburg there include the EX3 and X5 Sports Activity Vehicle, and the X4 and X6 Sports Activity Coupe. Last year, Spartanburg produced a record 411,171 vehicles, about 34,000 per month. According to BMW, it sells about 26,000 cars per month in the U.S. Now, not all the cars BMW sells in the U.S. are made here. Some are shipped in from overseas. And many of the vehicles made in South Carolina—287,700 last year, or 70 percent—are exported to points around the world. The upshot: By exporting more finished vehicles from the United States than it imports to the United States, BMW may be helping to lower America’s trade deficit."


    Trump is using the same Rhetoric he used during the Campaign to attempt to show he alone will save America. Scare tactics

    In reality he is not up to speed and hurting American Jobs. He doesn't care about that. Only support for himself.

    As in Mexico where US Automakers sublet the tedious labor intensive sub assemblies so they can assemble and sell a auto at a profit.

    Trump inadvertently is screwing up a process that's worked well for 40 years.

    Auto manufactures employ hundreds of thousands American workers in design and Assembly because of buying outside the USA

    Plus the cottage industries Transporting, sales, parts and service. We need good suppliers in Canada and Mexico.

    Trump is playing with things he knows nothing about. Being President is more than getting Elected.

    I always thought it would be good to have a businessman in the White House. Seeing Trump in action...I've gained respect for Politicians.

    It's about being in the system and knowing how it all fits together. Great Salesman..........Lousy President. Keep it up and we'll be in a recession.
     
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    excellent skills at being repetitive.
     
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    Thank you. .I would also present you with a picture to simplify the subject and help you understand the concept of ownership, bankruptcy, and by out by one large corporation of another large corporation. . . but I am afraid you will prefer to remain in your alternate reality. So. . .enjoy your illusions!
     
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    Let's be truthful now. ^^^ Here's what you really meant to say:

    President Dump is winding up one of the most uneventful tours any president has ever had. Being a narcissist it was very easy for him to piss off other countries heads of states and dignitaries. Piece of cake! He presented the real Donald Dump for all countries and the world to see. Good job President Dump! He was the ultimate ass to all he met something Obama would never have done. He presented his true feelings, not the majority of all Americans. Diplomatic he wasn't. And on a side note it was hilarious how the first lady blew him off not holding his hand and constantly looking like she was sitting in a dentist's chair. His trip will be talked about for a very long time.

    No doubt righties or Trump zombies as they are now called will praise his highness. However, we all know how much of a loser he really is. The real question now is...Hey baby, how's that wall a com'in?
    The real America is now fighting back. Hey Dump! Go back to groping women. Something you're great at!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (FIXED)
     
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    You guys keep bringing up how liberals follow this Saul Alinsky, but nobody knows who this guy even is besides Fox news viewers. Its ludicrous.
     
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    Do you not understand the depth of the stupidity of your statement? If HufPo were similar to Pravada, then they would not be critical of Trump, who is head of the government, or his policies.
     
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    would go towards equipment. In the report entitled Defence Expenditures of NATO Countries (2009-2016), we learn that the United States, the United Kingdom, and Poland are the only countries to be abiding by the NATO guidelines.

    In my opinion, there is absolutely no excuse for countries like Germany and the Netherlands to not be paying their fair share. I'd also be in favor of giving the boot to Belgium and Slovenia; they represent dead weight.

    President Obama was the one who sent the state sponsor of terror billions of dollars to do with as they please. President Trump is merely trying to address the damage done by the previous administration. Am I fond of providing sophisticated weaponry to the Saudis? No I'm not. In a perfect world, we would be better off staying out of the middle east altogether. However, given the current realities of the Iranian situation, having the United States offer a counterbalance to Iran's nefarious activities by providing weaponry to their chief Sunni rival, Saudi Arabia? That would appear to be prudent, especially when combined with an opportunity to tell Islamic countries that they need to drive out the extremists in their midst. Any complaints against these moves? The worst kind of partisan BS.
     
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    That's about all many of them can do on the forum - just rant juvenile sheers in their hyperventilating panic-attack hysteria. Issues? Issues are too hard for many of them to try to think about.
     
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    Further proof of the fact it was a great tour is the fact Trump's approval rating is on the rise. No matter how much the MSM and all the Trump haters, including the ones on this forum, the public at large say this tour was a great success.

    Liberals in the democrat party should be registered as a hate group.
     
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    America never stopped being great. Why do you hate your country?
     
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    Ugh. I was saying was they are as far left as Pravda and just as dogmatic.
     
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    The leftist leaders know who he is. "Rules For Radicals" is their Bible.
     
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    Yes you do and that may be our downfall. I would welcome your participation in our democracy if it was mature, reasoned and based upon reality but unfortunately, it is not. We must suffer until you are marginalized. Enjoy your brief vacation on top of the world, it will be short lived and end poorly for you and your fellow misbegotten souls.
     
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    Well that does it then, your nic supports your claims of being logical and well reasoned. Why do we fail to see proof of this logic in your posts then? We must all just ignore content and proclaim you "fair and balanced" just because you call yourself "fair and balanced".
     
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    HuffPo is an independent progressive media outlet, no matter who is in office. If the Soviet Union had switched to capitalism on January 1, 1985, Pravda would have supported it. Their guiding principle and reason for existing during this time period was to support the government no matter what.

    If you are going to say stupid things people are going to think you are stupid.
     
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    To say that HufPo is a radical leftist rag (outside the American political mainstream) is not stupid. It's accurate.
     
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    I wouldn't call Pravda 'left', at least not as it is today.
     
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    It's only accurate in the Trump bubble but not in the real world
     

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