Tell an Australian what the argument is against building a border wall.

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    Not used the truth huh?

    You, the right, elected Trump because you feel sorry for yourself. You have no vision. You don't have any ideas. You just needed someone to pretend to listen to you.
     
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    Right...... I mean, who can argue with the demonstration that happened in Hamburg? The vision. The "ideas".... Best video of the weekend was the legion of local residents that had to go out and clean up all of the shyte left by the left. I'm sure the average folks with the brooms, buckets, and the scrub brushes all appreciate your version of the "vision".....:roflol:
     
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    So if we can't stop everyone we stop no one?
     
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    Germany? We're talking about you, the American right. The people who feel had. Taken. Under appreciated. So under appreciated you elected someone who promised only to upset the apple cart of those you feel have turned their back on you. That's the only vision you have.
     
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    Nah... But hey. The fullness of your assimilation must at least get you some points at the local collective, I mean right?
     
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    Yeah, wreck the joint, that's your proposal. That's all you got.
     
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    What's that they say about breaking a few eggs? Or in this case dumping over rice bowls....
     
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    Doesn't your "wall of water" only function because of that little concentration camp you guys have in New Guinea?
     
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    And then what do have? Broken eggs, and rice all over the floor.

    You've chickened out. Things have gotten tough, so you've quit.
     
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    Fortunately for the Australians, their wall surrounds their country. Trump's wall does not.
     
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    Omelettes, Liberty....I know, hard stuff... And so nicely discounts that standard of your own vision, huh? :roflol:
     
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    Let's see if I can name all their silly reasons:

    1. Walls don't work. Yep, you heard that right. No wall in history has ever worked, in any way, at all. People just build taller ladders they say. Too bad there were no Democrats to point this out thousands of years ago. We could have saved a lot of money on castles and moats.

    2. Walls look mean. Something something Berlin Wall something something something.

    3. Walls are racist! Yes, you heard that right. Walls only block people of certain races from crossing, or....something.

    4. Illegal immigrants don't really cross the border like that, very often. They over stay visas, etc. Never mind that this is factually incorrect, in regards to the illegals who are the biggest problem, drug dealers, gang members, and other criminals we would never give a visa to.

    5. It's too expensive! The US budget is north of a trillion dollars, but $20 billion is just an insurmountable amount to come up with...or...something.

    6. It won't stop every illegal crossing! Some will climb over, and some will tunnel under. So, I guess if it doesn't stop EVERY person, it's a waste...or...something?

    7. You can't build a wall in the middle of a river! This is true but, you also don't NEED to build a wall where there is a raging river, and this was never part of the plan.

    8. You can't get equipment to all parts of the border, because there are no roads. Well, that isn't where most of the crossings are at anyway. Why not wall off the places where we KNOW they cross, and then work our way along to the more difficult terrain as needed?
     
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    So you don't' understand why people aren't calling to move the ocean?

    Okay...

    I don't see that you would be able understand any explanation that would be offered.
     
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    A wall is stupid.
    Most illegals get here via airplanes, and overstay visas.
    A short boat trip will skirt a border wall.
    It also gives the impression of cold war East Berlin.
     
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    Not to mention ladders and drones.
    The Great wall of China failed to stop Genghis Kahn hundreds of years ago, in fact he suffered no casualties nor fired an arrow to breach it. Why would anyone think a wall work better today?
     
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    In a hundred years from now almost all human labour will be obsolete, together with currency and wealth. It’s not a case of the left or right determining change, its technology, the Genie is out of the bottle and it’s not going back.
    The change will be long and hard and will make the Reign of Terror look like a walk in the park, but it’s inevitable.
    A hundred years seems to us now like a long time but its only two average lifetimes.
    ‘Times they are a’ changing’.
     
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    The key word is "little" . If Australia didn't have their wall of water then they would have millions of desperate people on their land and big unsanitary, crime ridden camps on Australian soil. Like France, Germany, etc. That wall of water prevents such despair because it is a deterrent. Many are not willing to cross it.
     
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    And all it requires is one teensy little concentration camp.
     
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    I don't know your point. It's nonsensical to assume a small problem is the same as a huge problem.

    If 1000 people walk across our border In a day is that the same as one car load that some how puts a ramp across our wall? Is that the point you are attempting to make?

    I'm thinking some people just want no border, no nation and they make ridiculous points instead of being honest about it.
     
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    The point I'm making is that Australia's "wall" only functions because of the atrocity the government of New Guinea is complicit in allowing. It only works because of massive violations of human rights.
     
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    This is not as much about President Trump as you would like to think it is. America has rejected the liberal ideology which is nothing but failed programs. Over taxing the wealthy doesn't help anybody - it's just a liberal wet dream.

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    Trump = omelette? Ha, please.
     
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    LOL.... Ignoring the world around us seems, well.... ignorant. Of course we can't have a wall that keeps the people in, like Berlin..... :roflol:
     
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    According to Matt Damon, it was "dragons" and magic.... I don't know, maybe it's just too much

     
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    Are these people not allowed to go back to their home countries?
     

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