Rainbow crosswalk: Was it worth the price tag? ($196,000)

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  1. Daggdag

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    How much would it have costs if it had been a normal crosswalk? Is it much less? Or is this just another "look how much these ******s made up spend" BS attack when it would cost about the same to put a normal crosswalk in? Anti-gay rights folks do that (pretending that something meant for the gay community cost taxpayers a lot of money when it's actually not that much compared to normal costs) a little too often for me to take them at their word that this is a lot compared to normal costs.

    If I can see some links citing the costs of this compared to those of normal crosswalks, it would help.
     
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    What size percentage of the population would be high enough for you to accept that the cost was not too much? How much should it have cost to justify the spend to "appease a small % of the population"?
     
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    So you think a city spending $196,000 to make a corner crosswalk rainbow is reasonable spending? Would you think it's reasonable for a grocery store to charge $600 for a loaf of bread? I wouldn't accept this as a reasonable cost for any crosswalk theme.

    Even if they had painted the crosswalks the colors of the sky, it would still be too much. If the city had spent $5,000 on this, or if local artist had donated their time to accomplish this, no one would care and there would be no article about it. A couple of city workers and a few supplies is all it would take to do this, so how on earth do this equal $196,000? Why is it that so many are willing to accept this in fear of being called anti-gay or homophobic? Of course there are other things that local and federal governments waste money on, just because a list wasn't provided in this thread doesn't mean any different. But mentioning other wasteful things doesn't justify another. Most of you who are defending this would be in an uproar if it was painted anything else with a price tag of the same.
     
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    Common sense doesn't always prevail.

    I'm assuming you've probably walked across a crosswalk at least once in your life? So you think $196,000 to make it colorful is a normal cost? Anyone who doesn't think so is making a BS attack and anti-gay?
     
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    I'm going to say no, it is not worth the price tag. Not at all. Another example of stupid wasteful spending.
     
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    The cost of striped crosswalks range from approximately $100 to 2,100 each, or on average approximately $7 per square foot. A high visibility crosswalk can range from$600 to $5,700 each, or around $2,500 on average.

    http://www.pedbikeinfo.org/planning/facilities_crossings_crosswalks.cfm

    I'm assuming the differences in prices reflect how big and long the crosswalk is.
     
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    What tax cuts?
     
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    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you call this? I'm quoting YOU, "Why don't you object for the real reason. It's because you don't like the idea of a city being okay with gay people"
     
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    Sports stadiums are mostly funded by voter referendums, in Denver the bonds were paid back before the due date, in Oakland the city refused to allow a new stadium. See how that works? Besides stadiums bring the city revenue and painted crosswalks don't.
     
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    Can you point me to the hetetosexual crosswalks? Or whan has the White House been decorated in lights to celebrate heterosexuals and heterosexuality?
     
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    Do you know how much revenue they generate? How much does this crosswalk?
     
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    Millions were and thousand's went back to work so what's your point revenue SOARED after the tax rate cuts but do prove otherwise since that seems to be your claim.
     
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    No my claim is that the people who are opposed to silly paint jobs don't give a crap about the homeless or the government feeding them. If you want to hate on gays, then hate on gays. Just don't pretend your offense is something other than it is. As has already been explained, job costing does not mean that you would have saved that money had these workers not have done this as they would have been doing something else instead and those costs would have just appeared on another line on the spreadsheet.
     
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    That wasn't about you personally. That is exactly how the o p feels. And we wouldn't be talking about this had he not posted in the Forum
     
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    Stadiums don't bring the city as much revenue as you think they do. They bring the owner of the team most of the revenue.
     
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    a crosswalk that will change things? I think most people support traditional marriage. I've never met a person alive who said heterosexuals making babies is disgusting or perverted.

    The crosswalk will change things how exactly?
     
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    Stadiums generate a massive amount of Revenue for the team owner. You really need to look into who gets the money or the Lion's Share of it from the stadium.

    A Crosswalk is just some paint
     
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    Yes i agree. Cities are notorious for that.
     
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    No, not at all.



    Government.

    I have no idea why people are afraid of being called names. Sticks and stones really.

    No they certainly don't I did see my City build a stadium and then another one and then another one. And those are shity deal for a city. The revenue generated will never offset the cost. 200k just seems like such a pittance even though it's exorbitantly wateful

    I don't know that I've seen anyone defend it.
     
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    This is the part I never understood about his posts. Who cares what percentage of the population it represents.
     
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    To be fair, the cost of building a standard crosswalk should be deducted from the cost of this particular crosswalk if we are to have a truthful discussion of wasted money.

    It's disingenuous to include the entire cost if the crosswalk was going to be built anyway.
     
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    Well a crosswalk is just paint on a street. So the cost is minimal
     
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    They generate millions in revenue even under the most restrictive studies, the goal post is NOT they completely pay for themselves in direct taxes and revenues. Yes there are so that fail as with any investment. So how much revenue does the crosswalk generate versus the investment in it? There is also the quality of life aspect a city WITH a major league team vis-a-vis one without, how does this crosswalk enhance the quality of life in the city does it actually attract people to move there or travel there?
     

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