Was Google right to sack anti-Diversity engineer?

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Was Google right to sack anti-Diversity engineer James Danmore?

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  1. AKS

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    That would be a great observation to make. Away from work.
     
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    We have establsihed that liberal women demand that their men say only feminist approved opinions

    Absolute conformiity is becoming a trademark of liberal culture at google and academia
     
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  3. AKS

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    Yeah, we get it, you're a trump apologist (and showing off your expected analysis abilities). I happen to agree with the OP's premises. I also agree he was rightfully terminated. That you can't seem to comprehend this argument is not surprising.
     
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    I voted no but am still slightly on the fence. I don't believe employees should be fired for having an opinion. That is mind control, to force them to not have one, or to have one you agree with.
     
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    Without knowing all the details I don't know if the company will win a lawsuit or if he will

    I just think that this family quarrel among die-hard liberal snowflakes says a lot about how intoleramt and narrow-minded the left is
     
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    Didn't studies in the Scandinavian countries destroy the false narrative pitched by identity politicians? That yes, eventually, they evened out the equality of access for genders to different sectors of employment, which in turn had an unintended effect of drastically emphasizing the differences between men and women. More men became engineers and more women became teachers, or whatever.

    Women and men were free to choose as they would.

    So in the end, the differences between genders was exaggerated by relaxing social customs, which is quite hilarious.
     
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    What about Cars?
    What percent of women Engineers/design (Engine, Materials, Aerodynamics, Battery tech) employees are there at GM, Ford, BMW, Porsche? ...Maybe 5%?
    In fact, even 95% of car salesman are men.
    What's with self-imposed PC Google?
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  8. WillReadmore

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    No, he said that as a significant manager within the company.

    The company can not tolerate that and pretend that it's position on discrimination is more than a joke.
     
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    That is accurate.
    First it was a memo.

    Memos say many things.
    Second he is an engineer and not that it matters, educated at Ivy League Harvard

    Why are snowflakes feelings so easily hurt they do not tolerate words?

    Can Google fire him. Surely he signed a contract. If he violated terms, he can get fired.
     
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    But it's not wrong per say. I mean, more men gravitate toward engineering positions - again, proven by the studies done in Scandinavia....

    I just don't see how this is even a big deal. He is entitled to his opinion.
     
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    But aren't Liberals the first to say that people need to speak up if they feel there are problems in the company/group?

    It concerns me a bit that those on the left seem to be really flip flopping in their ideals just so they can attack this guy
     
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    I don't think they should have fired him. Just firing him makes him a martyr and gives artificial credence to what he wrote. A well researched rebuttal to his memo would have been a better response. His memo is mostly comprised of old ideas about gender stereotypes that appear to be supported by superficial statistics. Deeper dives into the causes of the distributions of the traits he talks about reveals that they aren't all universal and that some of them are compound issues exacerbated by societal sexism.
     
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    Depends on the employment contract. One can get sacked for just about any reason.
     
  14. Robert

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    If Google was owned by Muslims, would the company still have fired the man?
     
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    I think it may be more complex than that, as the memo relates to a complaint of unfair practices in the workplace, and I understand that complaining about discrimination is an activity for which your employment is protected by legislation.
     
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  16. Latherty

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    You know, for all of this hullabaloo, I haven't actually seen one technical rebuttal of his claims... you are welcome to post any...
     
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    I don't see any relevance to your question.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Wow, you almost sound like a conservative.
     
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    We don't fully know the context in which the memo was created. It could have been that employees were asked to contribute to the discussion, or that he was having trouble getting the staff he needed because he had to hire less-qualified women to meet numerical quotas.
     
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    And that's the problem with all the " not enough women in X.." argument. How can there logically be an even close to equal number of women and men in a field when men entering that field outnumber the women by large margins? By that logic we need to fire the vast majority of teachers in this country to make room for men. Why isnt there an uproar?

    It's absurd. We need more straight male makeup artists, RIGHT NOW!!!! Hehe. Why is that industry so bigoted that they keep forcing out all the straight white males ? Something must be done to fix this atrocity!! Or not. The less white males employed is the LEFTS goal. They want all the men at home taking care of the kids. The more strong independent single moms the better. Then they can complain how ****ed up a generation is, and blame it on all the men for not being strong enough. Even though they're systematically destroying them, by feminizing them. The increase in confused bi-trans-humans who don't know what they are is all coincidental ;)
     
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    As they say, sit down then.
     
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    Here are some of his claims contained in his 10 page memo.

    Darned if I find problems so far.

    http://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-the-full-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320

     
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    "Gravitating" is a gross mischaracterization of what he stayed - on company time, with corporate resources, directly counter to corporate policy he has a leadership role in upholding, and directed internally.

    He's a total idiot if he thought the corporation would tolerate that.
     
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    The guy embarrassed his company on a national scale, ample reason to get his pink slip. Maybe Faux News will hire him. Down at the Faux Harem, he's their new hero.
     
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