'Only God can save us': Yemen blockade may cause world's largest famine in decades

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You still haven't answered why you think that the Saud's arranged for Saleh to get necessary medical help and boast about it even though he has been fighting them.

    You haven't said why you failed to make clear that it was not just the Houthis who were fighting or that Saleh's men were involved in mining the sea. It is also the people fighting with the man who was President for around 30 years. He keeps telling the Sauds to get out so lets stop pretending this is just the Houthis against the foreign attack.

    You want to know where the Houthis got that missile to fire at Riyadh. Most likely Saleh's Republican Guards.
     
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    The Saudi-led coalition fighting Yemen's Iranian-backed rebels closed the ports last week after a missile launched from Yemen was intercepted over the skies of the Saudi capital.

    The closures prompted an international outcry, with the United Nations describing the move last week as a "problem of colossal dimensions."
    Saudi Arabia's permanent representative to the UN announced in a statement Monday that it would allow all government-controlled ports and airports to reopen within 24 hours.

    "We would like to confirm that steps are being taken by the [Saudi-led] Coalition in full consultation and agreement with the Government of Yemen, to start the process of reopening airports and seaports in Yemen to allow for the safe transfer of humanitarian actors and humanitarian and commercial shipments," the Saudi statement said.

    Yemen is largely split between rebel Houthi control and an internationally-recognized government that is backed by the Saudis.

    "Between 80 and 90 percent of food imports are coming in through these ports, prior to the crisis. And if these channels, these lifelines, are not kept open, it is catastrophic for people who are already in what we have already labeled the world's worst humanitarian crisis at the moment," Jens Laerke, spokesman for the UN's Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), said last week.

    The blockade cut off UN-supervised relief supplies, which caused severe shortages of food and medicine. A recent cholera epidemic has been blamed on such shortages.

    In response to the blockade, Yemen's Supreme Political Council in Houthi-held Sana'a threatened to turn all airports, ports, border crossings and "areas of any importance" to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates -- which is part of the Saudi coalition -- into a "direct target."

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    The Saudi-led coalition fighting Yemen's Iranian-backed rebels closed the ports last week after a missile launched from Yemen was intercepted over the skies of the Saudi capital.

    The closures prompted an international outcry, with the United Nations describing the move last week as a "problem of colossal dimensions."
    Saudi Arabia's permanent representative to the UN announced in a statement Monday that it would allow all government-controlled ports and airports to reopen within 24 hours.

    "We would like to confirm that steps are being taken by the [Saudi-led] Coalition in full consultation and agreement with the Government of Yemen, to start the process of reopening airports and seaports in Yemen to allow for the safe transfer of humanitarian actors and humanitarian and commercial shipments," the Saudi statement said.

    Yemen is largely split between rebel Houthi control and an internationally-recognized government that is backed by the Saudis.

    "Between 80 and 90 percent of food imports are coming in through these ports, prior to the crisis. And if these channels, these lifelines, are not kept open, it is catastrophic for people who are already in what we have already labeled the world's worst humanitarian crisis at the moment," Jens Laerke, spokesman for the UN's Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), said last week.

    The blockade cut off UN-supervised relief supplies, which caused severe shortages of food and medicine. A recent cholera epidemic has been blamed on such shortages.

    In response to the blockade, Yemen's Supreme Political Council in Houthi-held Sana'a threatened to turn all airports, ports, border crossings and "areas of any importance" to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates -- which is part of the Saudi coalition -- into a "direct target."

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    OK .. who is mining the Bab al Mandab?

    The Missile last week like the others before was Iranian.

    Do you know the name of the man who was elected to office in Yemen?
     
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    Margot will say anything which will propagate her agenda, even if it doesn't makes sense and has no basis on reality...
     
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    Instead of answering this from me
    Margot once again does not instead cheekily begins her next load of questions with an OK as if he was going to answer the questions I gave her.


    When I looked it up it said the Houthie and those it was in alliance with that is those working for Saleh

    I am noting how you are saying this with certainty. I will expect you to provide proof Margot, proof.

    I have listened to several people discuss it. They had different points of view. With regard to Iran delivering such to Yemen there are these problems

    http://nation.com.pk/30-Mar-2015/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-yemen-conflict

    It is unlikely that Iran has managed to bring these in, but as I said given that you said, did not suggest but said that Iran had provided it, I wait for the proof you must have.

    Interestingly, people tended to think that it probably did explode contrary to what the Sauds said and I think were suggesting it caused damage to do with some oil something.. It leaves the Sauds with 2 problems. Is this showing that they were wrong when they claimed to have destroyed the weapons of the Republican Guard which were brought with Saleh and further that this suggests the possibility that the situation could indeed be made worse, that is that the Houthi/Saleh may choose to start firing such missiles into Saudi Arabia hitting targets. Now that would be an issue for the Sauds, could they take it? Could they take getting a little of their own medicine. People don't think so. Problem is they haven't really left anything to give in response. They are already running on genocide. People seem to believe that the Sauds have failed again here and just need to find a way out - possibly hoping for Saleh to provide that.
     
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    What is it that you think the Saudis want in Yemen?
     
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    They had an election at some point. They should have had new elections years ago. Current president refuses to step down theme.

    total oppression of the shia community.
     
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    Very simple.. the al saud respect his legit authority..
     
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    I am waiting for your proof that it was Iran who provided the missile.
     
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    Ok Margot. Here is the update on your pretence that the Sauds have started allowing help to get to the people dying of starvation and the cholera epidemic in Yemen.

    With 20 Million Yemenis In Need, Aid Groups Say 'Clock Is Ticking' To End Blockade


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...kade-to-save-children-un-agencies-tell-saudis

    No, the Sauds are not letting aid in. The situation is the same as it was when this thread started concerning letting aid in though they have gone for longer without.
     
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    Exactly what are you talking about now Margot? You are talking about Saleh? What exactly do you mean by respecting his legit authority. They disposed him by putting in instead his deputy and calling it an election even though they said he must go in unopposed so there was no one else to vote for.

    You believe that the Sauds respect the authority of Saleh's alliance with the Houthis?

    You believe they respect his authority by listening to him and stopping their attack on the civilians of Yemen? No Margot they have ignored that.

    You see I could accept you saying they accept his authority if the reason for looking after his medical needs was so that they can try and reappoint him and run but how just how can you try and twist this into the Sauds believing Saleh has legit authority when they removed him from office and he is in an alliance with the Houthis and fighting the Sauds.. I am beginning to think you should get the certificate for best ongoing attempt to rewrite history .
     
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    Well I expected some stick from the liberals when I posted that 'if they'd didn't procreate so much there would be less persons to suffer in bad times', but there was no excoriation whatsoever. I must be on to something? :cool:
     
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    No they did not have an election. They disposed the President and replaced him with his deputy.. The GCC had a vote among themselves after it was made absolutely clear that he must be unopposed. They voted 99.6% in favour of him. The people of Yemen the country this man was to rule over did not get a vote. Nonetheless the US presented to its public that there had been an election and he had been elected. Hence wrongly suggesting the people of Yemen had a say in who ruled Yemen.

    Certainly that appears to be a major ingredient in what has pissed off the Houthis. That and the Government pushing Yemen towards Wahhabism as well of course as the appearance of AL Qaeda and ISIS.
     
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    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/congress-timidly-complains-about-the-war-in-yemen/

    It is worth remembering here that the Saudi war against Yemen is not only against the Houthi but also against the people they are in alliance with that is the ex President Saleh with much of the Yemeni army. The people who are being most hurt are the civilians. The people who are gaining the most are Al Qaeda and ISIS.
     
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    The US have stopped ships carrying Iranian arms to Yemen several times in the past 5 years.

    The Saudi helped Saleh because he needed help. Its as simple as that.

    Have you been following Yemen in the news for the past 20 years? I have.
     
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    A Saudi led, US backed success story.
     
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    In the absence of wars it's nature's way of culling us, the better to preserve the world's resources.
     
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    Well I have your word for that. As has already been pointed out

    http://nation.com.pk/30-Mar-2015/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-yemen-conflict


    Even if what you say is true it is not proof that that is where that missile came from.

    You have no proof. We do know that Saleh and the Republican Guards brought theirs. Much more likely and much more worrying for Saudi Arabia if it was.

    Well you are the only person who has come up with that one. Now of course if he was working for the Saud's that would be more plausible that Saleh is fighting against them and succeeding in that fight makes your assertion lacking in credibility
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    What's this Margot a variation of your 'I have a friend who was there' or 'how long have you lived there.'

    You are no expert. That is becoming more and more clear whoever it is you are talking to.
     
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    and the Saudi Involvement does to. However in this instance you asked why I thought the Sauds were involved. You were given the answer. Their usual paranoia about Iran and their believe that the Houthis are a proxy for Iran so their inability to give the Houthis the share of power they deserve so that there can be peace rather than a genocide.


    When you have been given an answer to something stop trying to change the subject.
     
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    Ah, that will be because you are a Saudi propagandist.
     
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    If your interest in Yemen was long standing you would have noticed when the US stopped arms shipments.. you would have noticed the kidnappings for ransom.... the attacks on the US embassy.
     

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