'Only God can save us': Yemen blockade may cause world's largest famine in decades

Don't you mean 'look what it's doing to Europe'? Looks like everybody on the planet wants a piece of the prosperity, and the logicality of that is that everybody will become impoverished, indigenous and long-term visitors alike?

 

People can very well cheer en mass for Putin, Hezbollah and Assad while Saudi Arabia and the US commit genocide in Yemen. It's totally unrelated to each other.

 

Yemen was never a democracy. Yes the intent was to make it a democracy and this hope held till 94 when all hope was gone. Everyone knows Yemen was not a democracy so do not say my saying the truth is being rude. It was under the dictatorship of Saleh who was supported by the US.

Here is the New York Times discussing the hopeful move from what it describes as despotism to democracy with the removal of Saleh from power and the supposed temporary giving of that power to Habi. - something which was supposed to be for only two years, being he was a leader imposed on the people of Yemen by the GCC. This was supposed to be followed by genuine elections which never happened. Yermen was wanting to move into democracy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/world/asia/yemen-makes-strides-in-transition-to-democracy.html

Basically transfer of dictatorship was given to Hadi.

Hadi remained in rulership. He did not step down after two years which the people of Yemen had agreed to when they agreed that he could be unopposed President for those two years. His Presidency was supposed to be a caretaker role only before proper elections which never happened. The Houthi , who were in on consultations, found serious flows for democracy in the Constitution which was proposed. According to what I have read Saleh eventually got the Houthi so incensed with his tales of what was going on, you know an insider telling it as it is in this Dictator run society. Eventually they ousted Hadi with little violence. One of the reasons for the lack of violence was because the Yemeni army did not interfere with the Houthi take over. They did not interfere because they were with Saleh and he now was in alliance with the Houthi. They have been in alliance ever since though it is an the enemy of my enemy kind of alliance and for the last year has been on shaky grounds.

Yemen was not a democracy and as I have said before the people of Yemen wanted Democracy from the Arab Spring.

 

This is the middle east - let them get on with killing one another, which is something they've always liked doing; it'll be good for the global over-population time bomb.

 

This is exactly what I posted earlier in another thread.

We are either "evil" for getting involved, or we are "evil" for not getting involved.

I just block it out right now,

 

Then the "The West is Evil" narrative doesn't work, why would they say that?

 

Always trying to move goalposts when you have been beaten. You might like to look at the American/Saudi involvement in the war of Afghanistan and the creation and support and military training of religious fanaticism by both of them and despite the repeated pleas from Afghans to stop doing this as they were fanatics, if you want to find out why Yemen like many countries became inundated with Al Qaeda when the Afghan/Russian war was finished.

Try checking out Jeremy Scahill's 'Dirty Wars' for the US/Saleh complicity in Yemen, the US policy on droning Al Qaeda in Yemen which was in large part given over to Saleh, and which tended to drone instead people he did not like.

Look into Scahills 'Dirty Wars' to find how the US supported Saleh's Dictatorshp.

The people of Yemen had been living under terror of the drone strikes. They were so terrified they were afraid to go to work or school because they never knew when one would come. Under such a situation of course you are going to get people trying to get this stopped. As far as ISIS and AL Qaeda are concerned, they are the people who it is accepted by everyone as 'terrorists' and they are gaining from the Saudi onslaught on the people of Yemen.

So we have people who have been living under a brutal Dictatorship. They view the Arab Spring as a hope to get their country working for the people of that country through Democracy. Not just the Houthis, this was a widespread feeling in Yemen. This appears in reality to have been about replacing one Dictatorship by another.

and you believe that this is reason to bomb schools and hospitals, starve the people of Yemen and refuse to allow medicine in to save the people's lives from the cholera epidemic?

 

OK, the Saud's are still keeping the blockade of rebel held areas. By the way they always said they would.

https://www.npr.org/2017/11/17/5646...re-to-end-blockade-as-crisis-worsens-in-yemen

And of course it is not just starvation but cholera which is creating a genocide here.

Yemeni cities run out of clean water as Saudi-led blockade puts 1 million at risk of cholera

The Sauds of course are refusing to allow aid workers in with tablets which could save these people's lives, never mind allow the ability to sort out the damage done to their water systems which caused it in the first instance.

However voices are increasing for the US to stop this support of war crimes.
US aiding Saudi 'war crimes' in Yemen: Congressman

British people would do well to remember their part in this.
The Guardian view on Yemen: a catastrophe that shames Britain

 

Margot as to why the Saud's arranged for Saleh to have life saving medical treatment recently, at a guess it is because they can never win and they believe that the talk of Arab Springs and democracy has gone far enough away to be forgotten. My guess is they hope to put Saleh back in, hoping he will then, using the Yemen army ,be able to destroy the Houthi using propaganda that they were the people responsible for the Saud's attack on the civilians of Yemen - and an attack on the civilians of Yemen is how they see it. They say it is civilian structures not military structures which the Sauds are attacking.

 

There is no such thing as "let them".... since the US backs up one side in order to get this genocide on it's way.

 

I see Assad's 'chemical attack with barrel bombs' is back in the (fake) news again. Still no proof of course, but who the **** needs it? 'Curiouser and curiouser"!' said Alice??

 

Pff... a barrel bomb. That doesn't compare well with them baby killing Americans with their napalm bombs on vietnam who are still regarded as heroes. Besides, is Assad chemical attacks in Syria the excuse for America to support a genocide Yemen? There is zero connection, accept a racist one.

 

I've lost count of the number of times since that incident, and others where 'barrel bombs' are mentioned, what makes them so much worse than high explosive bombs, but answers came there none.

 

You really think the amount of barrel bombs dropped on Syria is somewhere close to how Vietnam got bombed by the US? What a joke. It also has nothing to do with Yemen, and how this somehow makes a genocide in the making alright.

 

In that post I was only positing the question of the effectiveness of one over the other?

 

Maybe you should look up how a burned civilian body looks like when it got in contact with napalm. Or look at some pictures of deformed babies due to agent orange. The US army got labelled to be a bunch of baby killers not for nothing. And the US considers them heroes. lol

Can you say how this is different than rooting for barrel bombers in Syria?


And all in all.... it has nothing to do with Yemen, and somehow making a genocide in the making alright.
You're just distracting away from your previous ridiculous comment.

 

I think we're got a bit awry here - what was my 'ridiculous comment', and I'll try and straighten it out.

 

your post #187 and my reply
Besides, is Assad chemical attacks in Syria the excuse for America to support a genocide Yemen? There is zero connection, accept a racist one.

 

Its been too dangerous for aid workers.. Reality is sometimes hard. Our war on Afghanistan has bled into Yemen. There's no question about that. What can the Saudis do or the US do to change that?

https://www.thenation.com/article/long-march-jeremy-scahills-dirty-wars/

 

The problems in Yemen have escalated since 2004.. Their oil business failed, over 500 factories closed, poverty increased and more terrorists moved in from Afghanistan, Pakistan and East Africa.

 

Mine was a loosely-related comment on the West's demonization of Assad, and the hype about barrel bombs, and the fact that it's in the fake news again today prompted it, so nothing to do with Yemen nor racism. Maybe I shouldn't have quoted you, so I apologise for that. As to the unrest in Yemen - I don't know enough about it, which is why I haven't directly contributed to this thread.

 

Their oil business did not fail. They never had much oil to begin with. Their oil reserve is just 1% of what Saudi Arabia has. It always was poor. Plenty of civilians always resented the central government supporting some tribes over others. It all is still no excuse for the Saudi's to commit a genocide with the help of the US.

 

They are not regarded a

Yes, Yemen's oil business was small .. There has always been too much conflict to grow the business properly or attract investors

Yemen ha become like the badlands over the past 20 years with Al Shabaab, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Al Houthis all fighting each other, the Yemeni government and the Saudis.

I saw what links the Saudis have gone to to prop Yemen up.. building colleges, hospitals and clinics. I have seen how they tried to beef up the border between Asir and Yemen to keep them out of Saudi Arabia.

What would you do?

 

I remember when they murdered the nuns... Savage.

Yemen's biggest export was oil.. That was 90% of their exports and the country needed that money.. Production was about 120,000 bpd before the bottom fell out.

It all about poverty and the terror gangs. like al Shaabab. They don't really have any political yearnings.. They are more like gang bangers.

46% of Yemenis are 15 years old or under.