'Only God can save us': Yemen blockade may cause world's largest famine in decades

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  1. alexa

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    I am better aware of the beginning of the Syria war than yourself. This thread is not on the Syrian war. It is against forum rules to consistently try and take a thread of topic.

    The early protests were peaceful.


    That is true but that did not stop them from having their three No's. No to violence, No to sectarianism and No to outside interference.

    Which is when the really serious violence began when according to early revolutionaries money started appearing in their bank accounts telling them to fight. They were soon joined by fanatical extremists bought and paid for by the Sauds and Qatar.
    Oh please. Margot do you believe you can just continue saying lies for ever and eventually people will believe you. There is even a leaked tape of Kerry talking about it.

    Now if you want to start a thread on Syria start it. If you continue to take this thread off topic I will report you.

    Now how about answering this post which is on topic.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ine-in-decades.518794/page-11#post-1068286043
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again trying to take the thread off topic and trying to suggest that the Houthi did what Al Qaeda who are now in cahoots with the Sauds did. That is shameful Margot. I had thought better of you.
     
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    So they say. Its impossible to figure out what the people in Yemen want and if they want it badly enough to destroy their country, cause famine and attack their neighbors,
     
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    AQ isn't in cahoots with the Saudis..

    What does the US and Saudi Arabia want in Yemen?
     
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    Al Qaeda and ISIS are the people who are gaining from the Saudi invasion. They have grown exponentially since the invasion began. They are on the same side as the Saudis and the Americans because they are fighting the Houthi. On one side you have Saleh, the Houthi and part of the Yemen Army. That is in the North where they govern. On the other you have supporters of Hadi including part of the Yemen army, who now are being torn apart, many rethinking their allegiance. They are joined by the Sauds and even more UAF and Al Qaeda and ISIS. It looks like the South is going to be UAF and Al Qaeda.

    Now as to what the US and SA want in Yemen. I doubt if Trump had not gained power that the Sauds would have any support. However he has agreed to be with the Sauds. This of course also goes along with Clean Break and the Sauds alliance with Israel and both of their desires to destroy Iran.

    As far as what the Sauds want in Yemen, well I have now been asked this 3 times. You have received two replies and a redirection to last one which you did not answer. Here it is again.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ine-in-decades.518794/page-11#post-1068286043

    I have though been pondering for some time if Saudi motivation has something to do with losing the previous war the Sauds were involved in which was about partition of Yemen, because that looks like how this will end - if there are any people left in the North and all the people supporting this will be responsible for those deaths.

    Regardless of how many personas are coming on as Margot, please do not ask again until you have answered the above post.
     
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    There is plenty of food in the markets of Yemen. Its expensive because of the war and the inflation it has caused.

    The Houthis stop delivery trucks and route them to areas that are friendly to them.

    The Houthis don't control the north.. Taiz has been under siege for 2 1/2 years,... They certainly aren't governing.

    This is NOT a parched earth famine.. Its man made and political.

    In the years before the war suicide bombers were getting into Saudi Arabia.. Several attempts to attack the US from Yemen were intercepted and stopped by the Saudis.

    Do you remember the Nigerian Underwear Bomber who was armed and trained in Yemen by Al Qaeda?

    The bomber who blew himself up in an attempt to kill Prince Nayef was armed and trained in Yemen. Nayef still has shrapnel in his body.. He has never recovered from the horror of that guy blowing himself in half from the explosives in the rectum.

    The US, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates want to keep the sea lanes open. Its important for all countries that ship from the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea.
     
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    Yemen: Finding near-famine - and lots of food - BBC News - BBC.com
    www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42023625
    Yemen is on the brink of famine - so how come when markets there are full of ... in Yemen: people are starving, he said, yet there's plenty of food to go round.


    Yemen: Finding near-famine - and lots of food - BBC News
    www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42023625
    12 hours ago - Yemen is on the brink of famine - so how come when markets there are ... in Yemen: people are starving, he said, yet there's plenty of food to go ...
     
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    Alexa, the unification of Yemen took place in 1990?

    27 years ago.............

    What did the Saudis "lose"?
     
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    ^^
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42023625


    Dude seriously. You took that pic from an article from the BBC saying there is no food. And you twist that into plenty of food by not mentioning the source.

    You're like a russian fake news spreader.
     
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    You are making it all up
     
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    I think it was during the 94 civil war. Yes, it was.
     
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    Nope. People on the ground in Yemen contradict your "belief"..

    Distribution in a country wrecked by war is a problem.
     
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    Not exactly.

    Yemen reunification | Institut MEDEA

    www.medea.be/en/countries/yemen/yemen-reunification/
    In 1972 and in 1979, simmering tensions between the two Republics of Yemen led to fighting and attempts towards unification after these conflicts did not succeed. ...

    On 22 May 1990, the Yemen Arab Republic (YAR) and the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (PDRY) merged to form a sovereign State, the Republic of Yemen.
     
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    Not seeing any sources. And I proved just now you also spread fake news with that picture of the market. So... yes you are making it all up.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemeni_Civil_War_(1994)
     
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    Of for Goodness sake Margot there is not plenty of Food in Yemen. There may be places where food can get in, but that story sounds a bit weird. If there was plentiful food it would not be being sold at a price no one can afford.

    Here is what that article also says

    They are talking about Taiz by the sea. Clearly food can get in there when this picture was taken. However now that the Sauds have blockaded everywhere no food, no medicine, nothing to fix the sanitation systems can be brought in leading to undrinkable water in the North.

    Yemen imports 90% of its food and it is reckoned that in 6 weeks there will be nothing. In the South, in Saudi held areas they are currently letting food in, they have not been blockading food so the people will have food. There appears to have been non stop fighting for Taiz so I am guessing you have a photo of it when the Sauds have it and it is not being blockaded.

    Yes Margot everyone knows it is Man Made by the Saudi and friends attacking and blockading on Yemen as above.Have you ever heard anyone say different.

    Indeed and this is what you keep trying to suggest is the reason for the war. It certainly did have a part to play in getting people fed up with Saleh. Apparently at the beginning of the 'war on terror' the US's intent was to do an Iraq on Yemen. Saleh went and visited the US and said he would give them free rein to bomb his country and he would say it was him who was doing it. Most of the people killed were innocents. The people of Yemen were living in terror afraid to go to work or school as they never knew when a drone would land (same problem in Pakistan). That is how I came in touch with Yemen and Jeremy Scahill when looking into the use of drones. That is true and you could make a connection as far as these drones and their killing of innocents being what helped people in Yemen to get involved in the Arab Spring. Yemen was one of the first countries but was anything heard of their very genuine struggle. No. Because the US was too busy droning them. So yes, the people being fed up with losing loved ones with all the bombs and drones the US was setting off killing innocents which Salah was claiming responsibility for and which people knew he was also letting the US do was without question one of the reasons people wanted rid of Saleh and a genuine democracy. That is as far as it goes. The North sided with the Houthi, sunnis or not. The areas which are now called in 'Hadi' hands but rather are in Saudi/UAE and AlQaeda hands are different. There once the Sauds declared war, people moved to Al Qaeda - though many of them were not of that nature. Al Qaeda, the people you are complaining about, the people who you keep trying to use to justify the mass starvation of people in the North are not starving. They are in the South, They are fighting with the Saud's. Prior to the Saudis war on Yemen there were only around 800 AlQaeda in Yemen and yes they were against the Sauds but since then there are now thousands and not only that ISIS too and they are fighting on the side you support, the Saudi/US side. This may be denied but it is known

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Taiz_(2015–present)

    You will also find more information about Al Qaeda's links to the Saudi coalition here.

    If you want to really know more about this then check out some of Scahill's videos on Yemen. He is easy to listen to.
     
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    Not likely we trust your opinion without a source.
     
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    Yes Yemen imports 90% of its food...

    The pictures of the market in Taiz were taken last week.

    AQ is very strong in the South. Don't you remember the recruitment and training of suicide bombers in Yemen,.. Ansar al Awlaki? That was Al Qaeda.

    I can't get your video to load. Will try again later. AQ is fighting the Houthis but haven't sided with KSA.
     
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    How many sources do you need? The first one I posted was ignored by you.

    Yemen united - May 22, 1990 - HISTORY.com
    www.history.com/this-day-in-history/yemen-united
    The Turks were expelled from the north in 1918, but the British continued to dominate the south until 1967, when the Arab world's first and only Marxist state, the People's Republic of South Yemen, was established. The unification of Yemen in 1990 did not go as smoothly as hoped; economic troubles in 1991 brought ...


    Unification of Yemen, 1990 - Al-Bab
    al-bab.com/albab-orig/albab/yemen/unity/unify.htm
    Aug 7, 2015 - Introduction. North and south Yemen were united into a single state - the Republic of Yemen - on 22 May 1990. This replaced the Yemen Arab Republic (YAR) in the north and the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (PDRY) in the south. The union was not immediately successful and disputes broke ...
     
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    Your 1st source mentions the civil war of 1994.
     
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    well if they were taken last week the likelihood of that being in an area which is being blockaded is extremely small. It is something of a lark to be talking about people dying because of a seige/blockade and then to give a photo from an area which does not have it.

    The only relevance it has to the bombing and blockading and fighting by the Sauds is that they are on the Saudi's side so stop trying to present it as what the Sauds are fighting and the US is assisting bombing although if you look at the article I gave you you will find that sometimes the US are fighting people who are fighting on their side now.


    I didn't give you a link to a video. I gave you a link to an article on Al Qaeda's links to the Saudi coalition. It works for me. I suggested you find some of Jeremy Scahill's videos if you wanted to know more about the complexities of the massive droning of civilians and a few Alqaeda in Yemen. You will find him at Youtube.
     
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    That picture of the market is from a BBC article saying almost nobody is able to buy this because of the food shortage / high prices.
    I already sourced this previously. Margot is just spreading fake news.
     
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    AQ backs Hadi, the guy who was elected and they oppose the Houthis.. That dosn't mean they are fighting for Saudi Arabia or the US.

    BTW, the Katyusha rockets are Russian.

    From the link on the battle of Taiz

    6 civilians were killed in As Silw district on 12 September when a Katyusha rocket fired by pro-Houthi fighters landed on their home.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Taiz_(2015–present)
     

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