The GOP Plan is the Biggest Tax INCREASE in American History, By Far

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  1. Turin

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    Id bet you 1000 bucks that there will be deep cuts to SS, Medicare, and Medicaid. They are ALREADY saying these things. So, no, its not a dirty lie. Its been the plan all along. Its well known that republicans hate poor people and want them to die off faster.
     
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    LOL.... Not happening. Medicaid perhaps, since that's pure entitlement. The other, not so much. In fact, it's a ripoff to those contributing most of their working life.
     
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    "and will hurt the middle class terribly, which is what the businesses want."

    Let me get this straight, business wants to hurt their biggest customers the middle class financially so they can't buy what the business is selling. That's quite a business strategy ya got there.
     
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    You have provided zero reason to believe that the claim is wrong.
     
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    Blue states already pay more than red states.
     
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    Business is not worried about that. They are simply worried about their salaries and bonuses. Your point is . . . but that's stupid. Check the late 1920s and the years before the Great Recession. Business is greedy.
     
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    If it really is the biggest tax increase in history it would have passed the senate 98 to 2.
     
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    Agreed! More efficient government that is what need. They need to do fewer things, better and more efficiently.
     
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    Blue states already pay more in federal than red states.
     
  11. Professor Peabody

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    Yes, but it's the socialist way for them to pay more because they can afford more.
     
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    The only way money cant be taxed is if it sits completely idle (and actually there are rare instances where even then sometimes it can be taxed).

    There is something sinister about the tax collector standing over a grave asking "wheres my cut?".

    Its like I was saying in another post, we choose where to draw the lines on taxation.

    (ex: if you gave me $1 million so I could pay my medical bills I'd pay tax, but if you paid the hospital the $1m directly there would be no tax)

    Let family assets pass to family, not to government, draw the line there.
     
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    You're letting liberal media scare you.

    Don't turn to CNN or HuffPo for tax assistance, turn to a professional.
     
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    Go to a tax professional and learn how this plan screws you.
     
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    You would not be happy if you were forced to sell a family small business or farm. Then, a corporate entity would buy it further consolidating wealth to fewer hands. The estate tax is really about limiting the potential growth of small competitors.
     
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    This reminds me of the end of Billy Madison when the commentator tells everyone they are dumber for having heard adam Sandlers response.
     
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    Couldn't get bigger cuts without Democrat support.
     
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    Tax cuts do not create economic growth? So, you believe the public sector more efficiently allocates money to increase net productivity, aye comrad?
     
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    Read this and looks at the $ amounts, link embedded:
    Estate tax in the United States
     
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    What was effective rates? Is this misdirection, or are you part of the public that's fooled by this argument?
     
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    You are confused again.
     
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    You don't understand economics, do you?
     
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    The white christian party of rich old white men own this debacle, lock stock and barrel

    trickle down also known as voodoo economics

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    nope that's all yours you did it without them and its all yours
     
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    Those types of situations are largely exempt from estate taxes.
     
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