U.N. Votes 151-6 to disavow Israeli ties to Jerusalem :0

Agreed. A good reason to sink a few ships.

 

Ahh, the old, I will make something up the other person said. Even though there is not ONE iota of anything like that said at all.
Who said anything about invasion?
Was there an invasion to set up the land of Israel?
No, the Brits just made it so. So now the UN can just declare Israel is no more.

 

I have placed many of the pro-arab propagandists on ignore, but to the others, I ask: when will Europe and the rest of the West finally begin the mass deportation of muslims?

muslims seem to believe they have a right to move anywhere - to Europe, the US, Myanmar, etc., but other people do not have that same right, i.e, jews to Israel.

The muslims who make these claims are despicable, clueless hypocrites with no credibility, but are seemingly touted on occasion. Amongst those who can think and reason, much less so.

 

In the history of the world, it was barely ever Israel.
The USA is currently occupied by foreign powers. So at some point in the future, the UN should declare the USA void and null and hand the country back over to the Native Indigenous tribes.

 

So what. Religions don't need a country. And just because a religion remained in an area, doesn't mean that land should be taken away from others living there to give it to a religion.

 

If you are so bothered. Leave the thread. Simple solution for those who only want to hear echo chamber.

 

If Jordan didn't attack Israel in 1967, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

it lasted much longer than the nation of Palestine, which has never existed

 

they could not have been Arabs as they did not speak Arabic.

 

Marsh Arabs speak the same dialect of Arabic as they speak in Eastern Saudi Arabia.

 

no one today speaks the same language their ancestors did 1,000 years ago, except for maybe the Icelanders.

 

No country has ever been held responsible for what some individual person did. It's not like the US government has been held responsible for Timothy Mcveigh or Saudi Arabia was been held responsible for it's civilians who did 9/11.

While the Israeli government can be held responsible for it's policies like going forth building houses in occupied territory to show their ill will to make peace.

It can not. Than again... the Arabs who placed bombs were not employed by the Palestinians at the negotiation table.

They aren't currently with their price tag thing. So..how is this different than a random civilian placing a bomb?

I countered everything. Thank you very much.

 

Then be specific about this post:

How are you going to undo Israel? How are you going to stop Israel from being "a jewish run land"? Who is going to govern the region? The antisemitic UN? Do you think Israel will simply acquiesce to your solution without a fight? How many dead Israelis will it take to force your plan on the region?

 

The UN cannot do a thing to Israel that Israel does not let it, especially as long as the US holds a veto on the UNSC.

 

Another reason for the US to quit the UN. The UN will declare war on Israel and we'll finally resolve this clash of civilizations bullshit once and for all.

 

Frankly I think it is irrelevant whether the US quits the UN or not. What has had importance for the US has been the ability to stop the world acting in ways it does not like - for instance stopping all the actions against Israel. Going so against the UN as the US has here I would imagine if anything they would want the US suspended but of course you do pay towards it. We appear and Trump's recent announcements re Jerusalem indicate that the US is becoming a lawless entity certainly on the International front. From its example it looks like the world is moving into a time of lawlessness - the US certainly can no longer complain about anyone else going against the law when she does so herself.

Someone was mentioning that Democratic countries should stay together, stay with the US. The reality is that in this as in so much else the US is not a Democratic Country so it may very well be that this is the beginning of the parting of the ways....but there again you want your isolationism. Enjoy.

Obama warns about the dangers to Democracy in the US.

 

There was no arab state either

 

That is because ethnic nationalists states are a creation of Europe culminating in the Holocaust.

 

The arabs should have accepted the UN partition in 1948

If they had palestine would be a free country next to Israel today instead of an occupied territory

 

Ok

All the other ethnic nation states throughout history are just illusions, huh?

 

You find it strange why Arabia did not have 'states' It is because before they were colonised by the Europeans bringing them with them they did not feel a need of them, they were not sectarian. Possibly the Arabs were unique in this. However what everyone keeps holloring about is that they apparently have no right because unlike Europe which had ethnic nationalist states which led to the holocaust, they did not.

The Zionists by the way brought this ethnic centredness with them to Palestine which is why they were rejected - that and too many immigrants at once. Look how you American's howl at just a few Muslim immigrants

 

I dont know where you are getting your history from

The Romans ruled the middle east for a time followed by the greeks

Both nominally european I suppose

but they were followed by the mongolians and later by the ottoman turks both of which were decidedly not europeans

Only near the end of the Jewish Diaspora did the British and the French arrive on the scene

 

what do you mean near the end of the Jewish Diaspora. Last than half of Jews live in Israel. Are you one of the people who intends on putting all Jews into Israel whether they like it or not.

and yes you have got it, it was when the French and British arrived on the scene that they brought with them the European idea of Ethnic Nationalists States with sectarianism and consequences that brings. Well done.

 

You are trying really hard to prove some point about the french and british but its really not important

The historical time was 1947 and 1047

The arabs were offered the chance to have rheir own country and they turned it down

 

Incorrect. If that were true, there'd have been no Libyan Civil War, not Syrian Civil War, the Russians wouldn't have invaded Ukraine, the DPRK wouldn't have nuclear missiles and Iran wouldn't be supporting terrorism all over that side of the planet.

The bottom line here is that 70 years is more than long enough to have tried Peace Appeasement. Time to prepare for war and see who shows up.