U.N. Votes 151-6 to disavow Israeli ties to Jerusalem :0

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  1. TOG 6

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    Except that it's not.
    If it were, the current map of Europe would include East Prussia.

    And in any event. Jordan ceded the WB to Israel in a treaty.
    Thus, under international law, the WB belongs to Israel.
     
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    They have tried to forcibly removed the rest of the Palestinians since 1950.. In fact, they wanted the US to pay for it.
     
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    The WB didn't belong to Jordan.. they just administered it.
     
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    I don't know if you've noticed, but there's no enforcement mechanism for "international law", so it's a toothless lion.
     
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    Hardly.. We didn't let Saddam Hussein keep Kuwait.
     
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    Not because of international law, though, but because Kuwait was a US ally, and we don't have many of those in the ME. We did nothing about the Hutu/Tutsi war in Africa, and that was far worse, but they just weren't important enough to get involved with. Try again.
     
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    Oh? North Korea doesn't think so.
     
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    On the contrary.
    Jordan annexed it, gave the people there Jordanian citizenship, and representation in their legislature.
    It belonged to Jordan.

    I see you backed away from your position once East Prussia was brought up. Why is that?
     
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    But "we" did "let" Jordan keep the WB.
    And now, under international law, it belongs to Israel.
     
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    Depends.
    Israel is more than happy to enforce its rights under international law with respect to the WB.
    :)
     
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    It never is the end of though.
    Other people will challenge. Other people will conquer.
    So that is certainly one way of doing it.

    But yes you can claim onwership of land through peaceful methods and indeed that is the most common way of doing so.
    Purchase or inheritance for example.
    And by and large this is the least disputable method of doing so. Since all parties involved agree and the uncertainties of war are avoided.

    So what was won by conquest, may just as quickly be lost in conquest since the ownership is disputed.
    Try and use a better method.
     
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    Who in Yemen voted for KSA to start bombing there? Who gave KSA the right to enter Yemen airspace or territory?
     
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    The Houthis in Yemen began attacking KSA in 2009. What do you think the Saudis should do?

    U.S. Navy says it seized weapons from Iran likely bound for Houthis in ...

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-usa-yemen-arms-idUSKCN0X12DB
    Apr 4, 2016 - U.S. Navy ships in the Arabian Sea intercepted and seized an arms shipment from Iranlikely bound for Houthi fighters in Yemen, the military said in a statement on Monday.
     
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    That doesn't answer my question.

    Did the KSA go to the UN for help? Did they demand the UN take action to stop the attacks? Did the Yemen government call for help from the KSA?

    No they did not.

    So the next time you whine about Israel responding to terrorist attacks, re-read your own post here a few times and then come back to me.
     
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    You're right, of course, it never is the end of it. Look at the current invasion of the US by Mexicans, 150 years after we pushed them all south of the Rio Grande. Can anyone doubt the same thing will eventually happen that happened then, that there will be a contest for the space between the Americans and the Mexicans? Has any international law body condemned Russia's invasion of the Ukraine and seizing of the Crimean peninsula? Ambrose Bierce once said that men will forget the death of their father sooner than the loss of their patronage (land), so anytime land is seized from one side by another, there's going to be resentment and pushback for a long time to come. That stretch of desert where Israel sits is probably the most fought over piece of worthless land on the face of the planet, all because sometime in the far distant past, someone's grandfather, great grandfather, or great great great great great great grandfather owned it. The fact that you can buy a large, beautiful piece of acreage with rich topsoil and abundant water supply somewhere else in the world is irrelevant, they want that tiny piece of dry, unproductive dirt right there.
     
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    and as you know from a link I have left the UN has not bought this. Now they have seen the supposed evidence.
     
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    Arabs are from the Saudi Peninsula. They came in when the Muslim hoards started spreading across the Middle East.
     
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    I would be okay with that since the Arabs keep starting wars with Israel. But in fact, many are citizens of Israel and are very happy. They have full rights unlike Jews and Christians under Muslim rule.
     
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    Arabs were all over the ME long before Islam.. The Marsh Arabs have been south of Basra for 6,000 years.
     
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    Oh bs. The world is perplexed and concerned by a narcissist in the White House. Trumps announcement is wholly unnecessary, serves no good end while infuriating Israel’s neighbors.

    But then, that’s what the TIC enjoys doing.
     
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    Lol, you didn’t receive a copy of prince Charles’s letter. Or see the headlines on the Chilean presidential candidate on this, or even the Tweets by a couple former CIA officers.
     

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