A Preventative School Shooting Solution...Arm The Staff

I've heard in most NYC public schools, the students go through metal detectors before being admitted to the school. There are also armed school security personnel present as well. It apparently seems to work well for them.

 

A better solution is to take away entitlement $$$ from people who both did nothing to earn it and don't need it.

With that $$$ we can pay to train school staff and buy all the necessary arms, training, and accoutrements necessary to put this program in place.

And the accoutrements, such as high-tec safes that rapidly dispense a firearm should it be needed, should be put in EVERY classroom, whether there is a teacher trained and on board with the program or not.

A "don't ask, don't tell" policy should be strictly enforced.

 

Well shucks ... Now you're mad at me

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
How about we give EVERYONE who enters a school a gun!

That way all the kids can defend themselves without having to find a teacher with a gun.....


If the latest shooter had the right to have a gun then surely ALL kids have a right to have a gun to defend themselves and others.....


IF EVERYONE has a gun then we are all safe !!!!!! CORRECT?


There, problem solved.......shame on those who want to restrict teenagers right to own a gun!!

Who are you talking about?? What are you talking about?






Don't you agree that if one person having a gun is good everyone having a gun is better???

 

[/QUOTE]


Well, that was your most intelligent reply.

But I don't know why you don't think that if one person has a gun for safety and protection why everyone having a gun wouldn't be safer and offer more protection (????)

 

Thats equating 'arm teachers' to 'arm students.' Which is either a moronic misunderstanding of the relation or a disengenuous demonization of it.

The correct relation would be equating it to arming the pilot, steward/ess or some other vetted authority figure on the plane.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
How about we give EVERYONE who enters a school a gun!

That way all the kids can defend themselves without having to find a teacher with a gun.....


If the latest shooter had the right to have a gun then surely ALL kids have a right to have a gun to defend themselves and others.....


IF EVERYONE has a gun then we are all safe !!!!!! CORRECT?


There, problem solved.......shame on those who want to restrict teenagers right to own a gun!!

Why can't anyone answer the question bolded in blue above???

Your "logic" says having guns is safe and offers protection....so shouldn't everyone have a gun?

Or did you want gun laws that only apply to those whom YOU want them applied to?

 

you don't want to make our schools safer for our children,

you want gun bans. period. that's the only acceptable course of action in your world.

you gun grabbers can go ahead and admit it. it's beyond obvious.

when EVERY. SINGLE. SUGGESTION to harden our schools against these sort of attacks is rebuffed, it's beyond obvious.

we've already tried the left's ridiculous Gun Free Zone 'solution'....it's time to let the grownups have a go.

 

I'm not so sure about that. No one is asking them to change their profession to police officer or security guard. On a day to day level, their lives wouldn't be any different. But if the worst thing happened, at least they could fight back. I understand what you're saying about your Mrs Marple example, but a lot of teachers are younger, mentally sharp, and reasonably physically fit. And for most people, the ability to fight back is just a mindset. I'm not suggesting that they all have to be in the image of Dirty Harry. There are a lot of benign looking people who will shoot their prospective murderer dead if they have the means and if the alternative is death.

I'm not against armed guards, but they're expensive. (Unarmed security officers, although much less expensive, would be useless against this type of threat.) My school district runs 10 schools, and so we're talking about hiring 10 full time armed guards, probably more because the high school is big. This would be by far more expensive than training and arming 10% of your school staff who are already your employees. (10% of my school district would be 58 people.) And a TSA-like entrance onto a school grounds or into the buildings would be monumentally expensive and impractical.

I've been training people in defensive firearms use for decades now. I know what I can do with a novice if you give me 80 hours with them. All they need is a mindset and a median level of physical fitness. After the initial training, I would just need about 16 hours a year for maintenance training to keep them sharp.

This is "target hardening." And for a potential shooter, he would know people were going to shoot back, but he would not know who. And at the very least, students would be better protected and teachers would not be forced to be helpless like lambs against a wolf.

Seth

 

You're not being serious when you talk about arming all the kids in a school. You're being sarcastic.

 

It's the rough equivalent of saying to prevent the guy going 100 mph from causing an accident we should have everyone go 100. More guns is not the solution, fewer guns is.

 

hmm.. 200,000 or so armed federal agents up against 100 million plus gun owners. Not seeing it, Spartacus.

 

What!

I agree with you and so I'm being sarcastic!!

Gun advocates just can't be pleased...argue with them and they are mad, agree with them and they still don't agree!!!



Tell them they should have what they want and they get all in a tither!



And they still can't answer a simple question (bolded in blue below):

How about we give EVERYONE who enters a school a gun!

That way all the kids can defend themselves without having to find a teacher with a gun.....


If the latest shooter had the right to have a gun then surely ALL kids have a right to have a gun to defend themselves and others.....


IF EVERYONE has a gun then we are all safe !!!!!! CORRECT?

 

Right. If nobody has a gun we are all in danger. Up is down. Black is white.

 

Oh, and if you've ever wondered what leftists will do with government if they're ever firmly ensconced in power...

 

Make fun of pathetic wretches and their inane beliefs and habits, mostly.

 

99% of whom will obey the govt so when Trump passes a law to take yer peashooter you'll comply.

 

hmm. that may be why America's commies have been reduced to impotently wandering in the political wilderness with their thumbs stuck in their asses. I don't know, but maybe if America's commies actually presented some attractive and workable solutions, versus attacking their enemies and stubbornly doubling down with same tired memes, agendas, and failed Identity/Victim-Oppressor politics...

 

Yeah, all three of 'em.

 

Don't want to alarm, but an overwhelming majority of the armed people in government aren't commie pajama boys, they're Red Teamers.

 

The entertainment branch of the industrial military complex, as Zappa called 'em.

 

boring.

see ya.

 

If you are going to arm anybody, these lib/progs want to arm everybody.

:facepalm:

 

The 'boots on the ground' are overwhelmingly pro-2A. Not only are most of them likely to refuse orders of confiscation (should it ever come to that), but a good chunk of em are likely to 'turncoat', side with their friends and families who view firearms and self defense as foundational American values.

Concepts like 'Lawful Orders' and 'Enemies Foreign and Domestic' become quite subjective when countrymen are pit against countrymen.