A Simple Question for Those Are Still Opposed to Same Sex Marriage

By taking marriage away, what I mean by that is it now is not the event for men to women, it has turned into a cluster F that now stands for anything goes. But there are a growing list of such marriages as I mentioned now putting people into prison and do you support them getting married? Mom to son, father to daughter. etc?

 

I am very dependent on my Supernatural God. And you cannot realize the meaning of Covenant.

 

Your tone is exceedingly racist. You have come out of the closet by saying:

You have no evidence of that. Research a little on how African tribes enslaved eachother (and still do) where there are no white men. Muslims have enslaved Christians for hundreds of years because their Koran belives Allah gives them dominion over non-believers. Research a little as to the black slave traders that sold their people to Dutch slave traders to come to America. Research a little to the free black slaveowners that held slaves in America.
Our discussions, Renee, seem to conflict eachother because we hold to different focuses, You view the world as the oppressors against the victims. I see it as those that see the world as "the glass is half empty" as opposed to those that see it as "half full". You always see it as half empty. That makes you a victim forever. You are an atheist as well. That means there is no hope. The Democrat Party is right for you.

 

First of all I emphasized men because it was men who made the laws. See the context ..And it might serve you to know the difference between racism and sexism.
If you want to blame racism on African slave traders, be my guest. I also guess they made blacks sit in the back of buses for generations, yep, white people here had nothing to do,with it. You sure sound like trump, blaming everyone else.
You are an obvious extremist. You cannot see anything in gray only black-and-white. You keep calling me a victim so then I will call you a victimizer...and one who is indifferent to others less fortunate.
The irony is you’re telling me because I am an atheist there is no hope. You see m the difference with me is you sit back and care about nothing because the invisible man in the sky is going to take care of you, I don’t sit back, I take action that will help humanity here on earth It’s so ironic that the religious folk will elect a man who commits so many sins and condemn people because they help others.You are right we have different values and you have no respect or caring for victims. Yes there are victims. Women who are raped are victims. People who are swindled are victims. People hit by cars are victims . Kids who are bullied are victims, I wish I could be like you and ignore victimhood. Life would be so much easier being indifferent

 

homosexuals marrying has exactly zero effect on heterosexuals marrying. So to claim homosexuals "took away" marriage from heterosexuals is just silly.

 

His example illustrates the very definition of homophobia!

 

Agreed. What two gays do in San Francisco, or even down the block, doesn't affect my marriage to my wife.

 

Not fear of homosexuals, but unless you want to live in the USA that approves mothers marrying sons or dads marrying daughters and other strange notions, you will pay attention. If I fear, it is what I said is to be feared.

 

Legally, there is no justification for homosexuals to marry and obtain tax advantages. The tax structure is why they wanted marriage.

The argument it won't hurt your marriage has never been one of my issues. When I said it impacts on marriage, it does due to the open door to a lot more strange notions of why marriage exists. The man down the street may beat his wife and children and that has no impact on your own marriage either but do you want to legalize wife and children beatings merely because of your personal conditions?

I guess one of my faults is I do recall the old days when this is not even an issue for the public. We did not think of homosexuals as married so nobody was talking of them marrying. We knew the marriage is a man to a woman.

 

Yours a perfect example of bigotry.

 

You tried to sweep the entire barn as were it a home. First being atheist only means you have not reached the proper place in life to realize that by excluding GOD, it amounts to a total denial of our very universe.
My reasoning:
Your reasoning depends on universes, be they one or hundreds, depends on the conditions known as a pure vacuum where nothing at all is in existence. From this vacuum, we see events taking place that create the building blocks of matter, called elements, and over time elements collect and we later see evidence such as stars and planets.

How simple it is to simply allege that you are not in charge, but GOD is in charge. I say this not referring to books known as bibles or other such names.

A lot learned is told to us all by others. We see the teacher of French as the expert so when the teacher explains a word only in French, the person being an authority is deemed to know it is true.

Same with the afterlife. Have you heard those who died only to return to life explain what they encountered? I have read accounts of Atheists who came to grips with GOD and came back to life and were entirely changed.

Helping others. We republicans have no objections to Bill Gate helping the world. It is his fortune and he will do it to make himself happy. Gates has so much money, perhaps his help is longer lasting.

i believe in a system of making an income. If you work for a firm, probably you have no company goals. If you have any, you do to get promoted. Not because you have warm wishes for the firm, you in general have warm wishes for yourself and your family. And there is nothing wrong there.

When you try to pass laws removing from me, for your gain, and you will admit you gain when you help the poor, because otherwise you would not help them, it is not voluntary on my part.

I see it as "Screw you buddy, I will pass the law and by gosh you will pay."

Give of your wealth. Do not presume I do not help the poor. Do not presume you know more about how to handle my money than I know. Quit passing laws. I won't pass laws to force you.

 

Seriously, dude? You're equating what two consenting adults want with a man who beats his wife and children?

 

You missed the philosophical lesson is all Max. But with you, that is normal.

 

Says the guy who equated what two consenting adults do with a man beating his wife and children. With you, that's normal.

 

You do nothing to help people be the best they can be. You just help them console their poor victimized souls. That's why I say the Democrat Party is the place for you.

 

Get with the program Renee....you said white men invented slavery. Now don't skirt the issue. That is a racist lie for which you absolutely cannot back up. Your husband must be a total wuss to put up with a women that hates and degrades white men.

 

Yep, it wasn’t white men in America who had slaves ....lol
My husband isn’t an extremist who can only think in extremes. He doesn’t think standing up for women’s rights means one hates women, he is much smarter than that and having a daughter made him see the injustices He stands up for women’s rights as well.when he traded on Wall st they would have golf outings where deals were made....but the clubs excluded women. Women were becoming traders and he refused to go if women were excluded. Guess he is a wuss because he saw his male privilege as unfair. That’s why this wuss left wall st in his 40s a very wealthy man...a man with character and sure of himself and not afraid of strong women

 

Yes, we have millions of mothers wanting to marry their sons, Such a problem. It is about as common as men wanting to marry their Labrador retrievers...you live in perpetual fear...don’t be afraid, these things aren’t going to happen and I don’t know what they have to do with gay marriage. ..Be afraid, be afraid, be afraid,,,the bogeyman is coming!

 

There’s that pathetic extremism again,. I devoted my life to working with the poorest kids in nyc...I could have taught anywhere. You sound like you are the victim, the victim of affirmative action and other things that helped level the playing field. Doesn’t it kill you to see minorities and women getting shots at things you always could ....I think perhaps you are blaming your lack of success on others . Playing the victim when you’re not,

 

As I said, you fly false flag when you taunt me saying fear.

I see society as taking paths. Some path will be best of all. Your path leads to what i told you. If you do not believe moms and sons are in prison over marriage, then you have yet to do your own research.
Gay marriage is an oxymoron.
They are not happn nor is what they do marriage.

My own homosexual brother lived his entire life and never got married. And he was very miserable to a lot of people. To some, especially women, he and they clicked. But when it came to sex, he clicked with the male. Males are not cleverly designed in nature to bear children. Marriage was created as you admit by men. Not for homosexuals, but due to their own children.

Children and homosexuality are oxymorons.

Ask homosexuals if they would forfeit all tax incentives merely to use the term marriage. They want the money.

 

Ah more extemsism.because I don’t believe in the invisible man in the sky, I am denying the universe. I didn’t believe in Santa does that mean I denied the toys my,parents gave me?
You want to believe in the supernatural, then do so..but I don’t need to create a god to explain what I don’t know...like Zeus, and Ceres, and ares etc. did for the Greeks
No, I have not heard of anyone who died returning to earth...that doesn’t happen and if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. Did they talk about the little people fluttering around with wings or were they with the red guy with the tail?
I am sure many atheists returned to god but probably more religious people realizing that there is no god....it’s all a matter of need
As I said, I care about the here and now.....I don’t need the supernatural to control me,

 

I have to admit, I feel sorry for those taught as you self describe.

Affirmative action is not what was needed. I consider a black man very learned on this issue. Ward Connerly is whom I mean. When I was in school from 1944 until 1956, none of my teachers taunted the classes over homosexuals. Funny how that happened for a full dozen years.

 

I am trying to understand you illogic. What does gay marriage have to do with a man beating his wife?
Did you only marry to,have children? You didn’t need to marry for that. Why did you marry that is different from gay people marrying? ah yes, you pine for the good old days when gay marriage wasnt mentioned....and gay people were in the closet and discriminated against. That’s why rightwingers are usually predominantly old white guys who liked the status quo

 

I have to tell women and minorities that affirmative action wasn’t needed
Don’t feel sorry for those I taught, they succeed because of
AA. Like Colin Powell and Clarence Thomas etc

 

I am shocked when you say you taught school. You had to teach what others first taught you, unless you taught from the lip ... you taught your beliefs only.

They do not report beings with wings. They report astonishing human appearing beings only enhanced. The man in the sky sounds like mocking and not like you would be expected to approach science.

My basis is not rooted in books nor what a lot of humans say, but in the basis of the vacuum that once existed prior to all matter, and knowing this... we can't deny the universe exists. It is clear to me there is a universe. I also clearly see it was created. Some say the big bang. I simply say the word GOD. I am not trying to use terms used by Greeks for what you would call their gods.

I believe in the Bible, to now cite a book, as you cited books for the pupils you say you taught, but in the Bible it is said that God declared to not create GODS over him.

Teachers so bigoted against GOD have much to learn.