Transgender boy wins girls' state wrestling title for second time

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  1. Tererun

    Tererun Well-Known Member

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    They are not illegal, they are prescribed by a medical professional who wants the person to be healthy so they do not overprescribe the substance. Do you understand how this works and that this person is not buying steroids on the street and the testosterone treatments are not the same as steroids? These are fundamental parts of what is going on. You seem to be missing them.
     
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    But it means you have medical issues.
     
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    They do not have to do that. Trans people are diagnosed by medical professionals. You don't just say you are trans and you do all the things the gender does. It does not work that way and it is wrong that you are saying it does. I know the process he has to go through to be considered trans and it is not something you just do because you think it might be fun.
     
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    He is not competing at the pro levels, and the pros may change as more trans men start to do things.
     
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    Again hormone therapy is not taking steroids. Educate yourself on what is and what is not steroids.

    Texas may do something like that, or they may just let this guy compete with the other guys.
     
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    Testosterone is not anabolic steroids.
     
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    Yes, but that is a boy. Get over it.
     
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    https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/anabolic-steroids

    Read and learn.
     
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    Imagine you change you change your name and everyone refuses to acknowledge that you changed it. If someone changed their name and you continued to use the old one, that'd be a dick move. Same principle.
     
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    Creepy subject.

    For he/she to be classified as a woman for athletic purposes, I assume he/she cannot retain the male genitals or is that not considered?
     
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    well you're getting into some Nestea territory with that because if you say it's okay for one sex to do it but not the other that's systematic sexism or discrimination based on sex.

    I understand that just FYI I'm not really interested in debating whether it's right or wrong or good or bad it is what it is.

    I don't recall saying it does work that way so I disagree.

    okay are you making an argument against what I said if so I'm not seeing it.

    My argument is that it's because a person can transition from female to male a person can also transition from male to female and if you let a person who transitions from female to male participate and boys sports you then must let a person that transitions from male to female participate in girls Sports. You cannot make laws that discriminate based on sex it would violate the 14th Amendment.
     
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    there is no set standard of what is a natural level and lets say they do determine what is the standard of a natural level
    then are all women or men allowed to take steroids till they reach that standard?
     
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    There are natural levels that can be tested for in a standard blood workup, it is how it is prescribed and how I got my prescription for Androgel.
     
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    Not even close but that you are stuck with such a disjointed attempt at a analogy is telling.
     
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    Get over what it is a girl raising her natural levels.
     
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    I already showwd you it is.
     
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    Really, list the physical symptoms which indicate the medical condition of transgendered. What is the test MRI, blood workup, brain scan?
     
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    No kidding.
    There is absolutely no way to verify this in some ones head. They're going on pure faith.

    Instead of treating the delusional mind, we are trying to rebuild the body to validate it's delusion.

    It's nonsense.
     
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    Respect is earned or it is of no value. My concern isn't with trans people. It's with legislative fiat that makes criminals out of people for not using the correct gender pronoun.

    Government mandated speech is an abusive tyranny.
     
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    Which isn't illegal. And don't you think the Tehas high school athletic board knew all the details of this person? Afterall, this person wanted to wrestle with the boys and was told, NO.
     
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    They didn't develop properly in the womb, due to some XY chromosome not being normal.
     
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    Then by all means, point to this gov't mandated speech you must use. And the consequences you face if you don't.
     
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    NYC has a law that fines people for using the incorrect pronoun. That I absolutely induced speech.
     
  24. dairyair

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    Do you live, work, or travel to NYC?

    No, what you state is very misleading and technically incorrect. The law is for discriminating.
    https://www.snopes.com/transgender-pronouns-fine-nyc/

    Somehow, I bet you've been told this many many times. If so, you lack credibility in any further posts.
     
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    It's a reverse metaphor. The point is more to hammer home that gender identity is exactly as arbitrary as names.
     

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