Transgender boy wins girls' state wrestling title for second time

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You must not have read my post. Which has got me scratching my head why would you respond to someone if you don't know what they're talking about?
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    We are talking about a girl raising her natural levels of testosterone, you need to stop pretending otherwise.

    BTW

    "An earlier change occurred in 2013, when “gender identity disorder” was dropped from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5), U.S. psychiatry’s bible for diagnosing mental illness. "
    It's not even a mental illness.

    And seems others are stopping the nonsense

    Where Transgender Is No Longer a Diagnosis
    Denmark becomes the first country to declassify it as a mental disorder
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/where-transgender-is-no-longer-a-diagnosis/
     
  3. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's personal.

    Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. The kids know what time it is! Obviously being bulked up by years of steroid use cannot be balanced.
     
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    solution
    get rid of separate gender sport programs no more boys and girls sports teams just one team with both genders participating on that team
    If you are demanding equality cant get more equal then that
     
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    I am not pretending, that is not a girl. That person does not walk, talk, participate, or even have the body of a female anymore. he has the muscle tone of a male because he has the hormones of a male. For wrestling he is a male. Since they are not reproducing the penis or lack of one does not matter at all. If you want to say he cannot impregnate a woman without sperm because he does not have testicles like a man then that is fine, even though I do believe I read that they can now artificially fertilize an egg with a sperm made from female DNA or something like that.

    As for Denmark they are not saying trans people do not exist. They are saying they no longer need to be diagnosed because there is nothing wrong with them being the gender they say they are. It is not saying what you are hoping it does. I feel that might be a step too far because part of the process by which one is diagnosed as trans and undergoes transition is living as that gender before transitioning so a person does not harm themselves by making the wrong choice and doing things that cannot be reversed. Please do understand what you are talking about. Denmark is not saying what you claim they are saying.
     
  6. Tererun

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    That can actually be done in some games. However in areas of strength the levels of testosterone do matter. Higher T will mean more muscle mass and strength for the same amount of exercise. There is a reality that male athletes are probably not at the same levels of T and that is why some become stronger than others naturally. It is also why synthetic hormones like anabolic steroids are injected a high doses to increase muscle development, and why sporting regulations do not allow them while allowing a person to receive testosterone treatments. The problem here is that this person should be competing with people in the male range of testosterone, not the female range.

    For that matter maybe some female athletes would want to compete with men and take male hormones even though it will make them sterile and give them other male characteristics. I am not sure how harmful testosterone is to the ability of a woman to have children, but I am sure no pregnant woman should be on it because it will cause birth defects. Maybe some women want to compete with men athletically for a time and they might take testosterone treatments to be in that range. It is still not steroids as they are above the range of natural male testosterone levels.
     
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    Well yes you are even referring to her as him. And the way you walk does not change your sex.

    They and current medical practice does not diagnose a medical condition as you claimed.
     
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    I keep seeing this thread come up, and every time, I get the same reaction to it. When the title says 'transgendered boy" that really isn't the correct thing here. The title should say, "girl on testosterone and other steroids" wins girls state wrestling tourney...

    And then, at least, it would be accurate. And then, we could separate the inflammatory from the criminal here. And isn't it criminal in many places to use performance enhancing drugs to improve your potential? Isn't it? The legality of this is so much clearer is you simply strip away the extraneous BS about "transgenderism".

    If this were, for example actually a boy (genetically) we wouldn't be having this conversation as he wouldn't be allowed to wrestle girls in this state.
     
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    Mack is a weasel who won nothing, He's a boy who pinned a girl - that's not winning, it's cowardly. This is a typical progressive lose/lose scenario where everyone feels bad. It is what the progressives are fundamentally about: fostering feelings of inadequacy.

    And where are the feminists? I find it horrific that a male can play at physically roughing up a female and there is complete silence from the left on this. The girls had their sport stolen from them.
     
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    I agree that the rule in sports must be a person plays on the team where all players have matching matching genitals, and be clean from all drugs and hormone treatments.

    What ever is going on in someone's brain does not count.
     
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    If he is prohibited from wrestling on either team, it is not the end of the world. It's the result of his/her choices that must be part of his/her reality. Everyone's choices have a natural consequence - why should he be exempt? No one is preventing him from forming a league of his own.
     
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    Back in the old days, parents were worried that if the schools provided sex education, it could have negative effects on their children. Seems they were right!
     
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    Grownups are scarce these days.
     
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    If a boy wrestles a girl and wins, he loses because he won a girl. If a boy wrestles a girl and loses, it's a disgrace.
    This is the ultimate goal of leftist ideology - to make sure everyone loses and feels bad, helpless and angry.
     
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    It's a girl. And she's taking male hormones/steroids for gosh sakes. Isn't that called cheating? Just because she's unbalanced and thinks she's a boy, she gets to take male hormones and wrestle against girls? What if her next girl opponent identifies with Annie Oakley. Does she get to bring a gun to the match? Bunch of crazy nonsense.
     
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    The strongest male won.
     
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    Like a broken Cracker Jack toy, Denmark has excused itself from reality and confessed to having lost the ability to differentiate between sanity and insanity.
     
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    I don't think sex education deals with transgenders issues, or at least not in detail. I think kids get info about such matters in the media: TV, movies, and the internet.
     
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    And all because Lucifer wanted to usurp God.
     
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    Do you have any arguments for this realm?
     
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    All of my posts are relevant to the topic and the quote.
     
  22. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has nothing to do with religion, although that is the perpetual leftist troll response. Don't bother jumping to racism either.
     
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    Pfff... it's obvious that drug enhanced issues are totally covered by now.
     
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    No I'm serious. Lucifer is an angry, miserable, loser, who wants people to be angry, miserable, and essentially at war with God, just like he is. Just like you said that liberals want Americans to be: ("This is the ultimate goal of leftist ideology - to make sure everyone loses and feels bad, helpless and angry.")
     
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