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Liberalism Vs. Socialism

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by The Rhetoric of Life, Mar 20, 2018.

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  1. Baff

    Baff Well-Known Member

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    NHS classics. 5 people for every 3 jobs
    Followed by cuts. Insane headbanging, and then 4 people for every 3 jobs.
    All at very high prices.
     
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    You clearly have no knowledge of what is really going on and the sources of inefficiency. That would reflect downgrading staff, creating increased underpayment that negatively impacts on staff satisfaction (increasing turnover). That would reflect a shift away from long term planning because of backdoor privatisation (with service provision replaced with the likes of Virgin call centres)
     
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  4. Baff

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    Being outraged at Jeremy Corbyn's warped morality would be like kicking a dog with three legs.
    Leave him and his cronies to their own private misery.
    Destruction of the Labour party is almost complete.
    Tories are laughing, but a new party may sweep them away too.

    Just as it did in Italy and France.
     
    Baff, Mar 24, 2018
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    Baff doesn't seem to do reality. What was the vote for Corbyn's Labour in the last election? How does it compare with the recent historical record?

    I do wish right wingers thought more.
     
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    The Rhetoric of Life, Mar 25, 2018
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    It seems when even the Guardian turn on Corbyn, it's the end of an Era.
    And the start of another one; that's now cutting ties with the Russian State.
    I wonder if there's a file on Jeremy Corbyn anywhere?
    And given this new political environment, is cooking up somethings to protect the UK from his socialist annexation of UK.
    First Anti Semitic, what next?
    Clearly he's considered a threat to our own interests with his rhetoric.
     
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    The Guardian was anti Corbyn from day one.
    The BBC have warmed to him. As has the Guardian for that matter.

    I bet the Mirror loves him.

    Guardian is lefty oligarchs. Rich people. The establishment, not the revolution.
     
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    Owen Jones both works for The Guardian and acts like a demented lapdog over his Pro Corbyness.
     
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    Looks like a child. Talks like a child.

    Real prize moron, that one.


    Listening to him describe the events of my life to me, and expect to be taken with authority for his madcap views even though he was not there and was not born.
    Arguing the toss with eye witnesses. Explaining to them what they did and did not see.

    The arrogance of youth. Taken too seriously too young. I doubt he will ever recover from it.
     
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    Still...
    As much as I fear a Corbyn PM for the sanctity of my country, I like this new Labour coup that hopefully sees the end of all that Socialist nonsense that planned to rape my liberties and took my job and breathed down my neck over corporation tax.
     
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    We should be free as a nation to have arms deals so other nations may sleep at night, something Corbyn disagrees with;
    The 2017 Summer of Chaos in response to losing the election, this Kremin Corbyn is nothing but a threat to the UK.
     
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    I don't fear Corbyn as potential PM.
    He can't win on a malcontent ticket. He rejects the mainstream on principle and the mainstream is what is required to win.

    If he started to win he'd reject himself. He's a loser. It's his thing. How he defines himself. How he deliniates himself socially from the pack.
     
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    I don't fear him winning, I fear him usurping.
     
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    I fear him being used as bad argument to make the Tory party pursue bad policies.
    Do as I say or leadership election and Corbyn gets in.

    Other than his influence as a Tory bugbear, he's politically irrelevant and getting more irrelevant with each passing day.
    I think he's got a strong grip on the Labour party now. Cemented his position, I'm sort of expecting new political parties to emerge and fill the vacuum his party has vacated. Centre left.

    It's by no means impossible but I'm not expecting the Labour party to come back from this. Politics has progressed.
     
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    I don't know much about UK political parties.

    Who are your far left and far right parties?
     
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    No idea.
     
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    160 grand to play a game of tennis or someone who consistently supports democracy? Hmmm, difficult one...

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...list-margaret-thatcher-cold-war-a8223436.html

    The arms industry is a super advert for the difference between capitalism and socialism. A corrupt elite gain at the expense of the general social good. Capitalism in full display...
     
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    If a Russian wants to donate their money, consider it an act of Freedom of Speech, you're suggestion that an auction prize win is a feed of influence is as lame as when it was first put to the Foreign Secretary, and is disgusting when you go to that but focus on the actions of Corbyn.
     
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    Labour Party who love Hugo Chávez or ruling Tory Party who love Ronald Reagan.
     
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    Amusing! 160 grand for a game of tennis is just an act of freedom of speech? Imagine if that money was going to Corbyn. Imagine the blubbering then.

    Now you don't give millions for nothing in politics. There is of course influence. It might be argued by some, for example, that it's a sweetener to maintain liberal attitudes over Russian oligarch monies. They wouldn't have liked Corbyn's insistence that we should target the money...
     
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    Antisemitic national socialist.
    Wants a war on capitalism.
     
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    This is slander. It is of course also cretinous
     
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    Denial.
    The man is far, far, very far from perfect.
     
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    Who said he was? You have lied about him, given he's a socialist who has fought all forms of racism. Calling him a racist Nazi really is stupidity.
     
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