GOP Won’t Include Planned Parenthood Funding in Spending Bill

Yes her baby

I was being facetious but then you knew that.

And that choice is to kill her baby or not.

 

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Me
For all babies and this has nothing to do children later put into adoption unless you are suggesting we kill them too.

 

Whatever you call the fetus it IS HER choice



AGAIN: Why do you want to take away women's rights to their own bodies, a right YOU have?

 

I call it by its proper name a baby and that choice is to kill it or not. Why do you keep deflecting what is the choice to be made?

 

I'm not deflecting anything...what are you talking about? I said several times, it's the woman's CHOICE...several times I posted that, didn't you see it?

That isn't deflection....How many choices do you want...there's kill it, keep it or what? Take it to DisneyWorld for the weekend?

The following is an example of deflection, YOU not answering a simple question :
AGAIN: Why do you want to take away women's rights to their own bodies, a right YOU have?

 

Choice to do what? Kill her baby or not. I'm discussing whether its right to kill babies.

 

NO, you weren't..you were discussing choice...

Here's the post of mine you deflected:

I'm not deflecting anything...what are you talking about? I said several times, it's the woman's CHOICE...several times I posted that, didn't you see it?

That isn't deflection....How many choices do you want...there's kill it, keep it or what? Take it to DisneyWorld for the weekend?

The following is an example of deflection, YOU not answering a simple question :
AGAIN: Why do you want to take away women's rights to their own bodies, a right YOU have?





AND "Killing babies" has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

If you need my opinion:


It's wrong to kill babies.

It is not wrong for a woman to kill her fetus.

 

And what is that choice? To kill her baby or not.

That's the choice you keep talking about.

Then why do you support women doing so?

Can you make up your mind please?

Taking Care of You and Your Baby While You’re Pregnant
https://familydoctor.org/taking-care-of-you-and-your-baby-while-youre-pregnant/

Fetal development: What your baby's up to in the womb
What life is like for your growing baby inside your womb
https://www.todaysparent.com/pregnancy/being-pregnant/what-does-my-baby-do-in-the-womb/

How Protected is a Baby in the Womb
http://m.onlymyhealth.com/how-protected-baby-in-womb-1349095173

 

The following is an example of deflection, YOU not answering a simple question :
AGAIN: Why do you want to take away women's rights to their own bodies, a right YOU have?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
The following is an example of deflection, YOU not answering a simple question :
AGAIN: Why do you want to take away women's rights to their own bodies, a right YOU have?

OK, you CAN'T answer my question ...I knew you couldn't...


Your hysterical insistence that a zygote is the Gerber baby is really borrrrrrrring.....and someday you'll notice that it made NO difference at all what you called it...it's still legal to kill it



The word "baby" applies to a lot of things ..pets, cars, lovers,....and petulant childish people who can't accept reality.

 

I've been waiting for you to answer mine and the word baby applies to the life in the womb, it's a baby in there. For you to say otherwise is total nonsense although highly selfserving. And you have provided nothing to refute that it is a baby in there while I have over and over and over and over and over. And how many times to I have to agree to stipulate the YES it is LEGAL to kill that baby in the womb, you don't have to keep repeating it.

 

Planned Parenthood's Wisconsin political arm fined by FEC for inaccurate reporting

Why does taxpayer-funded Planned Parenthood need a "political arm" anyway?

 

And those specious claims that we have to keep funding them because "for millions of women it is their only access to healthcare"

Planned Parenthood Opening 10 Locations for Women to Get “Video Chat Abortions”

The nation’s largest abortion business appears to be abandoning many of its expensive brick and mortar abortion clinics and turning to technology to sell women dangerous at-home abortions.

Planned Parenthood has been closing facilities at a rapid pace in the past several years. It has approximately 300 fewer facilities than it did in 1995, and 27 closed in 2017 alone.

However, the abortion chain has maintained a steady number of abortions, according to its annual reports. One of the ways it is doing this is through the expansion of telemedicine abortions, which are cheaper for the abortion chain to offer but dangerous for women as well as their unborn babies.

Cosmopolitan reports Planned Parenthood plans to open 10 new telemedicine, or webcam, abortion locations this year to provide abortion drugs to women via video chat.
http://www.lifenews.com/2018/02/06/...ations-for-women-to-get-video-chat-abortions/

 

To fight the misogynists who want to punish women by taking away their health care.....

IF PP was left alone to help women they wouldn't need to fight sick politicians...

 

Falsehood. We don't want unborn women to be sucked into a sink, shopped up, and sold as parts.

 

Either that or let the states deal with it which will mean they'll have to increase their budgets to care for newborns who end up in the custody of the state until they are 18.

 

fatalistic attitude.

 

Falsehood, you have no proof that anything is "shopped up" and sold.

 

No, women who are American citizens with the same rights as everyone else are American citizens with the same rights as everyone else

in EVERY state.

 

Women have full control over their bodies.

Cut your Nipples off, get a belly ring, cover your whole body in tattoos, surgically implant whatever you want...it's your body and no one cares.



Another Human who has started developing due to your actions is not " your body", it's another humans body. This "Womens Body" bs is just that...BS.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
AGAIN: Why do you want to take away women's rights to their own bodies, a right YOU have?

OK so take out the fetus, set it on a shelf and it can grow all on it's own....is that what you think it can do?

Why do you think pregnant women suddenly lose possession of their bodies?

Why do you want a fetus to have MORE RIGHTS than anyone else?



YOU and I cannot use another person's body to sustain our lives .....and no one else can use our bodies to sustain their lives..

...but you think pregnant women shouldn't have that right?

 

Specious, no one is taking away anyone's health care unless you are now admitting that PP relies on federal money to provide abortions because that is the "health care" you do not want taken away.

 

It will die of course. The way Life works here on our planet is the Baby needs to grow inside a host. Everyone knows this, and everyone also knows it is only temporary.

They don't. You are trying what the left always tries to do on issues...use deceptive and outright false terms to make your agendas more paletable. This is another developing human. it's not another organ or limb or part of "your body".

Humans do not just grow parts of "their body" later in life. Your body is fully formed when born, it's not like some parts are there to start and others evolve in afterwards. Pure nonsense.

This is another Human being, who through YOUR actions was brought into existence. You shouldn't be able to just treat it like a skin tag.

The right to survival is not an extra right, it's a basic right for all Humans. It's the same rights you have, and the same rights I have. Nothing more is added. Why do you think Women deserve some ultimate decision on life and death of another growing human?

That is MORE RIGHTS.

That sounds nice if there was some other way to create Humans, but since there isn't...this is just foolishness. That is the way human life grows. What you perceive as "rights" have no impact on the Biological constants of the human race.

If you choose to have sex, another Human can be created. You have the right to your body, so stop taking the risk if you don't want one?

Nope. There is no "right" to snuff out an inconvenient Human. if there was, we'd all have a list I'm sure..

 

If it is NOT part of the woman's body then it does not need the woman's body and can be removed.....no one should be forced to keep a foreign object in their body...

Yes, when it's BORN the body is fully formed....it isn't before that.... or are you one of those who think a ZEF looks like the Gerber baby ?

Well, yes, you can.....

I never said it was.....I asked why you wanted to give the fetus the EXTRA right of being able to use another's body to sustain their life


...a right NO ONE ELSE HAS.....
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NO, that is not more rights, that is the same rights you and I have...we do NOT have to use our bodies to sustain the life of another.

What ARE you going on about ?????.... you actually think that someone who needs a new heart can FORCE you to give them yours ???...and think it's some way to create humans?????

Gee, and here I thought you said you knew something about humans....

Yup, the Pentagon has a big list of "inconvenient humans" they want to snuff out , supported by many "Pro-Lifers".....


Yes, women have a right to kill their fetus.....

 

Nope. It develops inside the Human body as you know. Cavemen knew, and so do you...or should. It's simply the way human life develops. It cannot create itself on it's own, your actions created it.
You can change your mind with millions of things...but not another Humans existence.

This doesn't answer what you quoted. It's a dodge to try and not accept that the Baby is not "your body". If it was...you'd have it there at birth.

And that is the mistake we are now realizing, and what we are discussing.

Yes, you did when you tried to paint it's necessary survival as some extra right. "More rights" was what you wrote.You even wrote it all in caps. Survival is not an extra or more rights. It's the most basic right we all posses.

Why exactly do you and other Women feel you get to decide that? Isn't that really the example of "more rights" that you mentioned?

You certainly should have to if you willingly create one. That's the only way human Life grows Fox. Until artificial wombs are invented and made commonplace, the only choices are let it live, or kill it.
Just the way life is, it has nothing to do with "rights".

It's like trying to say you have a "right" not to eat or breathe....unfortunately Life made other decisions, and they don't care about what you think you have some right to. It's just going to happen because it's a constant for the life form in question.

That nonsense above isn't even worth responding to. no one mentioned a heart or that being a way to create Humans. if you've run out of actual answers then just say so, but this garbage doesn't even make sense.

I do. I see you have no real answer, or run out of rhetoric and just resorting to these kind of responses.

Nothing to do with what you quoted. Just another nonsense answer because you feel you have to say something...but you don't really have anything to say.

At the moment unfortunately they do. Hopefully this will be re looked at, as it was the wrong decision. Fast forward from the day it became legal to now. What are we up to now?
50 million humans? More?
If this happened anywhere on the planet, even a percent of that number...we'd be calling it a genocide.

This needs to be re looked at. A Human life is far too important to just be snuffed out at the whim of lazy, stupid people who think they have a right to have carefree sex, and use abortion like it's birth control.