GOP Won’t Include Planned Parenthood Funding in Spending Bill

Why does an orgasm trump a life?

 

You were correct until """You can change your mind with millions of things...but not another Humans existence""""

Humans kill humans all the time and have since the beginning of humans.

The human fetus is human, it is NOT a legal person with rights.

That statement is too convoluted to interpret but certainly avoids my question :Yes, when it's BORN the body is fully formed....it isn't before that.... or are you one of those who think a ZEF looks like the Gerber baby ?

It wasn't a mistake.

No, this is what I posted :""I never said it was.....I asked why you wanted to give the fetus the EXTRA right of being able to use another's body to sustain their life


...a right NO ONE ELSE HAS..... """""


So you think since you have a "right to survival" you can force another person to give you their heart if that's what you need to survive?

No, you have NO right to use another's body to survive.....and that is what the fetus is doing......even if it had rights it still would NOT have the right to use another person's body to sustain it's life.

Yes, women, like everyone else , get to decide if they want to use their body to sustain another's life or not.

Again: the fetus is NOT a person with rights until it's born...

Why? Who made that "rule" ? You?
.

Ya got one right!!!!

It shouldn't have anything to do with rights if wackos would quit trying to make abortion illegal.

That nonsense above isn't even worth responding to

Did you deliberately misinterpret the analogy?

Why? Because you got that inconvenient thing thrown right back at ya?

Yup, the Pentagon has a big list of "inconvenient humans" they want to snuff out , supported by many "Pro-Lifers".....

If the number of abortions is exactly the same as the number of women who wanted one ...it's all good

No, genocide is called genocide.

And abortions happen all over the world....did you think they just happened in the US !!!???

Well, then you just sign up to adopt a few thousand of those precious lives....we wouldn't want lazy , stupid people to raise those "precious lives", would we ?


BTW, lazy , stupid people DO have the right to carefree sex and abortion....and your denigration of women, not surprising, is noted.

 

We put people in prison , or worse for killing other humans. As to the second part, that's one of those things that people say...yet when someone murders a pregnant Woman, they've been charged with 2 murders.

Again, this has 0 to do with your claim that a fetus is "your body". Just another attempt to sidestep away from defending that.

It's not ME doing any such thing. it's Nature. That's the way babies grow. It doesn't matter one bit what you think you have rights to...it's the way it is. Life said so, not me.

Nope. I never claimed an adult could make another give them an organ to survive. That's nonsense. As explained above, "rights" do not change the fundamental process of life.
No one has a "right" to force you to consume a substance to keep your life either....but Life itself said if you don't eat or breathe, you won't survive.
Just simple facts of life and in this case Humans. It just is. That's how Human babies develop.
If you do not wish to have a Human growing inside you, keep your legs closed.

Why do you think your want for sex gives you some right to kill the developing Human that you created??

Yes, keep your legs closed. That's when the decision gets made. Your want for pleasure isn't important enough to sacrifice life.

Again, people have been charged with 2 counts for killing a pregnant Woman, so this doesn't hold up.

And it wouldn't have escalated into what it is today if people weren't abusing it. How many millions have been snuffed out Fox? Think this was ever intended to be used as birth control after the fact? I understand there will be times when medically, a hard choice has to be made...but it's just being made today for convenience. Sorry Life is more important than convenience.

because the Pentagon and War has nothing to do with this. it was nothing but another sidestep away from what we're discussing.

To you, I'm sure it is. Some of us hold a higher value on Life I guess, and this isn't going away.

They toss people off buildings for their sexual choices too "all over the world". We're talking about what we do here in our society. What they want to do over there is up to them, and the society they wish to build.

Actually I would want them to do just that. They created them, they should raise them.

Where is that "right" spelled out? Care to point to it in the Constitution?

And I'm not denigrating all Women, just the ones who think like you do. That your want for a half hour of pleasure is more important than lives. Disgusting.

 

And what happens when the mother refuses to take the baby home with her? It ends up in the care of the state who gets stuck with the responsibility of caring for the baby. Imagine a million babies per year being forced on the state; how much more money you'd be paying in taxes all because the state would take away women's rights or force them to have the baby because they couldn't afford an abortion.

My suggestion is this: If you don't believe in abortion, then don't have one.

 

It's fine. They can take some of the tax money they're already wasting elsewhere and bring it back home to care for them. I'm fine with my money going to American concerns. They have enough money to sprinkle around the globe on things American tax payers don't care about...so why not redirect it and save some of these lives?

I'll gladly give up some of my illegal alien care dollars, my UN Global Warming dollars and my Albanian influence dollars to care for these unwanted children. Even all those Black ones that you all enjoy watching get snuffed out.

How many Mozarts and Einsteins have we snuffed out just for pure convenience? Society should be ashamed. We have enough tax money to care for them. it's being wasted right now on other causes all around the globe.
No "rights" would be taken away....because there is no "right" to end another Humans life, not for Men or for Women.


LOL...if you don't believe in Murder, then don't kill any one. Yeah, that's great advice.....

I'd rather take a stand for Life than just "not partake" silently from the sidelines thank you.

 

I don't think you are being realistic; you know as well as I do that what you propose tax-wise has about as much chance of becoming law about as much chance of the 2nd amendment being repealed.

I've yet to hear a blob of cells clustered together raise any protest about being aborted. Let me know if you find out to the contrary if you would.

 

That has to do with the UVVA, it adds charges for killing a pregnant woman...it does NOT give fetuses rights and it has a clause that says it has nothing to do with abortion...and it doesn't.

"Nature" isn't a law or a ruler...it does NOT dictate to people what their rights are...how a fetus grows has nothing to do with rights and you can't show that it does.....

BTW, "nature" does a lot of abortions on it's own, they are called miscarriages....

.


YES, you claimed a woman should give her entire body over to another being to use to sustain their life...yet you wouldn't let anyone force you to give them your heart or blood or any other body part, to keep them alive......

Well, you follow that mystical magical " rules of life" crap but humans have been changing the rules for centuries....if life says you should die , do you die or go to a doctor?

I never said that.... being a born person gives you the right to have an abortion.

Pretty much on schedule....when Anti-Choicers get frustrated they ALWAYS end up with the crap about "just keep your legs together" ...as if telling humans that that ever solved anything

No, the decision gets made when one becomes pregnant.

Yup, it is !

Again, google UVVA especially the clause saying it has nothing to do with abortion. The UVVA did NOT give the fetus rights.

Abusinhg what? Abortion is a legal medical procedure....

Uh, that is what it is....

I'm sorry your god and leader , "Life" forces you to do everything as inconveniently as possible but most people don't do that.

It's taking lives because they are inconvenient........you can't escape the fact that humans do that.

You are correct, abortion has been around for thousands of years and telling women to just "keep their legs together" hasn't changed a thing and abortion is NOT going to go away

YOUR DIRECT QUOTE FROM POST 528 : """If this happened anywhere on the planet, even a percent of that number...we'd be calling it a genocide."""""


YOU brought up the rest of the planet...you.

So you don't care for those lives after they're born (typical) and don't care if they have lazy , stupid people raise those "precious lives"

Boy, you are flailing if you think lazy , stupid people DO have the right to carefree sex and abortion is spelled out word for word in the Constitution....no, it comes under Liberty and Freedom stuff....things you don't seem to understand...

Yup, you are if you demand that women have less rights than anyone else...

 

Well, your fellow righties scream the loudest about Welfare , SNAP, WIC and other government agencies that aide those PRECIOUS LIVES.....so don't plan on taxpayers paying for millions more kids just to make you feel warm and cozy.

Silly statement: ""because there is no "right" to end another Humans life, not for Men or for Women."" BALDERDASH!!!~

Yuppers, if one's life is in danger or one is being attacked or harmed one may kill the attacker....you have never heard of self defense or war !!!! Really!!!