Texas Will Require Burial of Aborted Fetuses

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Why not?
     
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    He did say "" but we should mitigate the dehumanizing effect abortion has on our collective consciousness. ""

    I guess he feels the entire world is sad because miscarriages and abortions happen......and war and disease and disasters have no effect ;)
     
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    You really agree with silly statements like ""This gives an opportunity for the pro-death crowd to be able to mourn for the child from whom they ripped the life."""

    Really? It doesn't even make any sense and the "pro-death" crowd" ? c'mon...



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    What dehumanizing effect? Can you explain that?

    Do you mean if we stop killing people in war and on the streets we won't have so many abortions??
     
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    Because their goal is to shame women. They don't care about the fetus.
     
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    Probably because it's not the same thing. One is an elective procedure and one is something done involuntarily by the woman's own body.
     
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    Oh, I thought this was about respect for fetuses. We bury murder victims, and we bury those who died of natural causes. Apparently this is not about respecting the fetus, but a ploy to shame women.

    You: A pro-life state wanting to respect the remains instead of discarding it like common refuse.
     
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    I don't agree with all the rhetoric surrounding the issue. Just that abortions are the death of humans who deserve a little dignity and reverence.

    I dunno where you're getting the war part...
     
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    If the religious right really cared about the fetus, they would work harder to eliminate the need for abortion. They would champion free birth control for the low income and sex education in all public schools. The countries that have lower abortion rates also offer paid family leave, subsidized daycare, and universal healthcare. Without addressing those issues, this is just more crocodile tears.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    You really agree with silly statements like ""This gives an opportunity for the pro-death crowd to be able to mourn for the child from whom they ripped the life."""

    Really? It doesn't even make any sense and the "pro-death" crowd" ? c'mon...



    What dehumanizing effect? Can you explain that?

    Do you mean if we stop killing people in war and on the streets we won't have so many abortions??




    So is war....and war won't end either.



    You said something about death dehumanizing us (""the dehumanizing effect abortion has on our collective consciousness"")....well, abortion isn't the only thing causing death....and I really don't think people dwell on abortion and the death of fetuses as much as how many are killed in war...

    It appears to be the old "women cause all the problems " argument...
     
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    I wish men could get pregnant.
     
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    There'd be a free abortion clinic in every bar and hardware store...:)
     
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    Amen.
     
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    Half of Burnet County would starve!
     
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    :Shrug: don't see the problem with what I said and yes it is about respect.

    The law is an attempt to work against desensitization by not allowing doctors who perform abortions to treat the remains of their procedures like a piece of crap. A miscarriage is something else altogether and is something obviously taken care of by the woman who had it.
     
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    Asinine slippery slope fallacy! :eek:

    Where does this imaginary "desensitization" stop?

    Must doctors who remove diseased organs be required to give them a "burial" since they contain human tissue?

    Will the next step be a requirement to provide a burial for cancerous tumors since they also contain human tissue?

    What about your dentist since what he removed from your tooth cavity contains human tissue?

    How about someone who does a dermabrasion procedure? Must that "human tissue" also be given a burial in order to avoid desensitization?

    How about your barber/hairdresser? All those piles and piles of "human tissue" that is going to need to be "buried" so that there is no "desensitization"?
     
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    First, this slippery slope argument is fallacious.

    Second, there is a stark difference between diseased organs, cancerous tumors, and a human fetus.
     
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    What is removed from the woman in an abortion is part of her body and NO one should have the right to tell her what to do with it....JUST TO MAKE MONEY WITH THEIR PHONY ADDED EXPENSES...which is what it's all about..
     
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    No, there isn't.
     
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    There is NO desensistization at all.

    Courts will be an end to this stupidity.
     
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    This made no sense at all. After an abortion, the doctor does what they will with the remains as it stops being up to the woman after they agree to the procedure.
     
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    Just to be clear, you see a fetus the same way as a cancerous tumor or diseased organ, FoxHastings?
     
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    Working against desensitization is simply shaming women, and there's no need to shame these women who I trust to make the right choice. There are NUMEROUS ways to cut down the need for abortion. I suggest you spend your energy there.
     
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    In which case the onus is entirely on YOU to explain this "stark difference" in human tissues in order to justify your allegation.
     
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    Outside of rape or extreme health issues, abortion is wholly preventable. So, it should be shameful to get one. Except, the law isn't about shame. It's about stopping women from getting abortions like they're going to the mall. People have to fund Healthcare and insurance so it helps when reckless behavior is curbed.
     

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