WHITE GUN OWNERS, THE LEFT HATES YOU-Law-Abiding, White Gun Owners Are The New Nazis

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  1. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone suggested that, rather than defending from attacks by a tyrannical government?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what YOU call "defending from attacks by a tyrannical government", the rest of the country calls "treason".
     
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    If we actually had a tyrannical government that attacked the populace who refused to accept that tyranny, whose side would you be on?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the Conservative idea of "tyranny" is very fluid these days.

    one guy on the forum said its ok to shoot a cop who searches your car without a warrant.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    anyways, threats of civil war are useless and a dime a dozen
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Great Republican President Abraham Lincoln showed us what happens when bigots declare civil war.
     
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    [Forest Gump voice]
    "He got shot"
    [/Forest Gump voice]

    No one will be declaring civil war. They will only be responding to a tyrannical government in asymmetric warfare, which in these days can be extremely non-violent.
     
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    the Conservative idea of "tyranny" is very fluid.
     
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    As is the liberal idea of what constitutes "racism" or "hate speech" or any number of other activities.
     
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    What is your definition?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Conservatives dont believe racism and hate speech exist
     
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    If the standards used in defining such would quit being expanded to the point of absurdity, perhaps such would not be the case.
     
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    Where did you get that idea ?
     
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    Simple, banning the AR-15 because of it's appearance is just the start. What would be the next firearm banned? The SKS, Remington 742, M1-Garand, Springfield Armory M1-A, Ruger Mini-14, Ruger 10/22? The fact is that in Australia bolt action rifles have been banned from sale because it looked (appear) like AR-15's.
    There are already Federal restrictions placed on fully automatic weapons and now "Bump Stocks". I have no problem with those laws, but I do have reservations when it comes to the right to own semi-auto and bolt action rifles. It's that slippery slope that ant-gunners sek that bother me.

    Australia Is Confiscating Bolt-Action Rifles Because They ...
    https://www.mrctv.org/blog/australia-banning-bolt-action-rifles...
    Mar 15, 2018 · Australia Is Confiscating Bolt-Action Rifles Because They LOOK Like Assault Weapons. ... The Australian Border Force is now demanding more than 100 gun ... gun ban ...
     
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    If you pay attention to the laws being crafted to ban bump stocks, most are being crafted by those ignorant of firearms that introduce (sometimes intentionally) language that can be used to expand restrictions beyond the common understanding of the scope of those restrictions. Banning bump stocks is based on a single instance of use, a conflation of bumpstocks with true automatic weapon functionality as a means of gaining public support, a myth of the effectiveness of fully automatic weapons for criminals, and is nothing more than a political response to a virtual non existent risk; not withstanding, many, like myself, can perform recoil assisted operation of a semi auto without any device. But then, in describing such a device, the language includes vague language, restricting any modification that makes a gun shoot faster, meaning any work to improve a factory trigger can conceivably be restricted. No criteria is specified what constitutes the threashold where ROF becomes a public risk.
    I am frequently reminded of laws passed in the 50’s to ban switch blades based on Hollywood propagated hysteria of gangs using them. Funny, the cheap switchblades that were the object of the hysteria were knives that were so fragile that no serious expert would consider viable for use in self defense much less as an offensive weapon.
    Laws outlawing switchblades are still on the books despite modern knives with various design options such as thumb studs, flip protrusions, wave hooks or holes in the blade can deploy as fast as those with a spring and often are stronger designs. Yet, because of the Hollywood portrayals and ignorance, switchblades are the stuff of deadly myth, a perception of risk over factual risk.
    Back in the 60’s, I could open a Buck 110 folder, one of the most popular knives back in the 60’-70’s, as fast as any switch blade and it was a more robust knife than most of the cheap switch blades of the time.
    Switchblade knife laws were the product myth and Hollywood hysteria than any real threat. Such is the case with baning bump stocks, but, the laws are being designed to be used to restrict more than bump stocks and are being used to further demonize AR15’s, expand demonizing images to semi automatics in general and pave the way for increasing public acceptance for limiting magazine capacity. It’s a direct page out of Pete Sheilds’, (National Council to Control Handguns, Handgun Control, Inc., Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence) ‘step by step’ strategy to ban all guns. He argued,

    https://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2013/09/how_to_ban_guns.php
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_Campaign

    So, some laws for restrictions may not seem important to you, but there is a bigger picture that should be considered.
     
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    Abraham Lincoln was the bigot who declared civil war, btw.

    I hope his views of blacks are no secret to you (shall I google that for you?) and the south merely seceded. It was the North and Abe that attacked.
     
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    Thanks I needed that. I appreciate you bringing those points up.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've bent a elbow or two with a few Aussies drinking a few pints of ale with them. They're not slouches nor are they pansies. It's their government trying to emulate mother England. Unlike those Yankees, they didn't fight their oppressors for their freedom.
     
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    No, Aussies are surely not pansies to any degree.
    I must say that Aussies are amongst the bravest stoutest fellows I have ever known.

    Guns are the least of the issues Australia is now facing, be it so Heretical for me to admit such.
     
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    As I stated it's not the Australian people but to be more pointedly the Socialists in government that want to emulate British draconian laws such as gun confiscation, laws against free speech and the use of CCTV's to spy on every move made by the people under the guise of more safety for the people while curtailing individual freedoms.
     
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    I will say this much, if ever again should I need a Bloke to see Me through the very brink of the Enemies teeth, it should be an Aussie or a Scot, the Few Men I have seen with ballz enough to actually spit in Death's eye and not flinch or give an Inch or a damn and still remain able to smile and joke about it.
     
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