American ambassador in Germany Richard Grenell insults Germany just hours after taking office

You want a foreign ambassador insult your country and trying to give orders?

 

Ok, so I will add to the first paragraph, and I should have included it, given I talk about it quite a bit. ha ha

Granted, a gov't will act in the interests of the people who run it and rule over the People. And in the interests of the gov't itself, as an entity. But here is the deal in regards to that. Many of the personal interests of elected officials in DC, are tied in with the self interests of the big banks, and the big corporations, and the elites who own common stock in those businesses. And so, there is a very blurry line, in reality, when it comes to our ruling politicians, and the elites what finance their campaigns and finance these other groups that help a president to win. And if you for a moment think that these rich elites, these special interests, who are looking to buy policy and such, that personally benefits themselves, using the financing of campaigns are only doing it as patriotic americans, well, you would be just too naive to understand how reality works.

One thing I do know about the rich, as I know some new money and old money rich folks, is that they did not get wealthy by just throwing their money away. They expect a return on their investment, and while it is what bribery looks like, the laws exclude this bribery from being bribery and subject to the penalty of law. Just another case of how the rich have given different rules to abide by.

Now, to reject this idea that the rich do not try to buy policy which meets their own self interests, by financing campaigns and other things, would mean that you do not believe money has ever been important, and used for other things than buying a coke. Nor would you believe that following the money ever leads to a culprit. In fact, you would have to negate what most people know, from just experiencing life. And yet, I have actually seen a few folks attempt to deal out absurdity and nonsense while maintain a straight face. But they are just the straight man, and while they are not laughing, the other people who actually have a handle on reality will laugh their arses off. And then become a bit irritated with the naive, at best, or a deceitful person, at worse. Laughing at a naive person, is one thing, and called for. But who genuinely laughs at the deceitful? Who are dead serious in their deceit?

 

Nonsense. Supplying aircrafts, trains and other technological staff has nothing to do with nuclear technologies. This is first. Second, Iran complies with the agreement, therefore there is no need in any sanctions.

 

It is the US which has lost its marbles

Mattis 26th April

https://www.timesofisrael.com/mattis-says-iran-nuclear-deal-includes-robust-verification/

There are other links from last year verifying this.

However it appears here that Mattis was unable to convince and not wanting to lose his job he made this insane announcement

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/news-videos/mattis-backs-trump-on-iran-deal-pullout/vp-AAx0Wpc

What allies? The US has decided it wants no allies and not only does it want to do a genocide by sanctions on Iran it wants to do same on people it calls its allies. 'Work together with' he says but your government is pretty much a wannabe World Dictatorship. No one will work with you except through sufferance.

 

I really had hopes for Trump. Looks like he is just a fool. Talk about a orangutang.
On the other hand I'm not surprised regarding the ambassador, in the Balkans we are used to American ambassadors and British inbreed lords governing us and telling us what to do. They do not have friends they have vassals.

History has shown that pretty well.

 

Well, they've got Israel for that.

 

For the lunatic Leftist fringe, perhaps. Even then Obama couldn't get all the sane Lefties in the Democratic party to support his charade.

Irrelevant and untrue. Please try to stay on topic.

But Iran gave you its word it wasn't interested in obtaining nuclear weapons.

That joke aside, I agree with you that Iran probably has the knowledge to build a nuke if it hasn't constructed one already. Right now the only thing it has left to develop is a delivery system and now we're free to sanction them for it.

The Iranian people have been suffering on account of the illegitimate regime that runs the country for several decades now, and these sanctions are an inconvenience compared to the other things they've had to put up with...

Tehran has never let anything stand between it and developing nukes. The sanctions that were foolishly lifted did impose a penalty on the regime for its efforts and now our country will be reinstating them.

The supporters of the deal can cry about "bullying" but we can't force you and your countries to do anything. You have a choice to make and as I mentioned to our German friend I fully expect your leaders to choose wisely.

This won't be the end of cooperation between the U.S. and Europe, and who knows - perhaps your leaders can make good on negotiating something that the American people will accept. That would be nice, but Ali Khamenei & Co. aren't interested in your latest Quixotic crusade because this one might actually cost them something.

As for counter-sanctions, if you want to grab the bull by the horns be our guests.

I'm not sure what you mean by that last comment but countries do have a choice and they choose to do business with America because it is in their interests to do so. Iran, not so much.

Your leaders know that. The fanboys and fangirls of the Islamofascist regime in Tehran had best be prepared for disappointment.

His boss agrees with me - this was one of the worst "deals" ever made - certainly the worst since Munich 1938 - and now this charade is over.

Oslo is another example of a deal that the American people never made. If you and your leaders can't develop deals that are worthy and capable of being ratified as a treaty then it's obvious that it's your countries that aren't worth making deals with.

By the way, which country are we hoping to create a civil war in? This is news to me.

LOL - Thanks for the ANSWERnik flourish at the end there - I liked that.

Let me tell ya something, alexa, that in many ways you should be glad to hear - America is not afraid of losing its power and influence. That's why most Americans, including myself, welcome the prospect of playing less of a role in international-geostrategic affairs than we did during the post-WWII/Cold War era.

 

With some people you are never going to win....on one hand they complain hysterically that America is losing influence and on the other, they complain that America is imperialistic and has too much influence. They hate our country, and will always argue the opposite to whatever action is taken by the government!

 

It would be nice if they made up their minds, wouldn't it?

 

Since Germany follows the contract, Iran gets the trade it wants. You can throw a tantrum about that.

 

What you are saying is that people are corrupt. We all knew that. While voting never really fixes anything, at least it represents an incentive for politicians to act in a non corrupt manner at least. If they had no consequences for what they do, the corruption would be immeasurable. As such the government corruption is not extreme. It is somewhere between that and moderate I think.

 

So any nation that looks after its own interest hates Jews and Israel? Brilliant observation there.

 

What the U.S. governmental swamp is saying is that we have no evidence that Iran is breaking the agreement. That only tells me that Iran is effective in hiding it from the world.

 

Get real, dude - we are dictating the terms of doing business with our country.

Take it or leave it.

Your leaders will take it because it is in your countries' interests to do so.

 

They do. Merkel said today trade with Iran continues. We simpky make a stateholding that does the trade.

Same way we deal with russia to counter your sanctions and build a nice gas pipeline, by creating a holding that does the deal.

But hey, we plan a massive tax on your internet companies, took 13 billion from apple already.

Your Trump is a lame duck and since he is president, we won evry conflict against USA.

P.s. the stateholding wont make deals with USA so all is fine.

 

LOL - Why are you concerned about the trade IRAN wants?

Some patriot you are.

Like I said earlier, your leaders have a choice and they will choose wisely because it is in the interest of Germany to do so.

 

I'm going to bite my tongue for a few minutes...

 

This is the Ugly American administration.

Trump's successor is going to have to go on an apology tour that will put 0bama's to shame.

 

Merkel did already chose. She said trade with Iran continues.

You dont get it? We have a treaty and we dont allow this american tyranny any longer. The entire EU is united about this. And the EU is the worlds largest economy. Junker said, the EU will continue trade with Iran and any sanctions against european companies will be reflected as sanctions on american companies. You stand isolated. Germany, France, UK, China, Russia and entire EU stand together. And its time to show you your place. And your place is below our boots.

I have another fun fact for you. Germany cancelled planned contracts to buy american LNG gas. We build a new pipeline to russia. We did chose wisely. And decided its in our interest to kick american ass. You even build a terminal in Wilhelmshafen already for your tankers

The entire media here say what a pathetic joke trump is, his new ambassador is called as pathetic as his boss. Your country gets disrespected here on a lvl like never before.

We plan to crush your farmers btw. Our sanctions target mostly your small people.

Oh and btw, Chinas trade deficit reached a new record last month, beside Trumps politics. He failed there as well.

 

Do,that. It might be more healthier than the stuff you normally eat.

 

That is because she as head of state can, and this idiot of an ambassador can't.
Comes with the job description.

 

Well I guess from your position that is everyone but Trump but that is what the BBC keeps reporting. You must be off the page to the right if you believe that.

Neither irrelevant nor untrue. You made the point that in reality the word of a US president is worth nothing and congress according to you are the only people who speak for the US. That of course made me think of Congress/senate.

It was 1995 that your Republican Senate decided to move your Embassy to Jerusalem and declare Jerusalem the Capital of Israel and state that Jerusalem should remain an undivided city. In other words that Jerusalem be the undivided Capital of Israel and in this destroying Oslo. A few days after this Begin was assassinated. Without question emboldened by you passing this law though from what I have read it was your Christian Zionists far more than Israelis who did not want Oslo and they were pressurising the Israelis. Now they are in your Government.

Prior to 9/11 all we were hearing about in the UK was how you were destroying the prospect of peace in Israel/Palestine and our Politicians declared in their election that they were going to sort you out. Of course your Presidents, those whose words according to you count for nothing, did not put this into operation because they knew what would happen. However the first election that saw the Republicans back in power - they were the people who decided to move your Embassy to Israel the capital of Israel an undivided city this came back on you with 9/11. You have been a rogue country pretending that you were involved in unbiased peace meetings between the Palestinians and Israel. Now with the Christian Right in power and having destroyed the Middle East causing Millions of deaths and millions of refugees, you are going to start moving your Embassy on the 14th.

Where the two sit together is that the United States of America are charlatans and their word is worth nothing whether it comes from congress or the President.

You are mistaken. I have never been in negotiations with Iran.

No darling you are sanctioning them for not doing it.

No. Sanctions are organised to harm Iran by the US harming any country in the world which dId not go by what it wants. But as you mention it I have certainly read that the people of Iran came near to revolution but watching what happened to countries which did - both Egypt and the US and friends is Syria they decided against. Without your criminal actions, Iran would likely now be very different just like without your and the Brits criminal coup Iran would almost certainly never have put in type of Government in 79 - and lets not forget the US bond with Saudi Arabia which has pushed their kind of Islam as far as it can destroying as much as it can of genuine Islam starting in the Afghan war and on going. You with the Saud's created Islamic terrorism and fanaticism resulting in millions of deaths.

https://www.meforum.org/campus-watch/articles/2004/bernard-lewis-revisited

History will not look well on your short time of Imperialism.

Indeed and the US can look forward to its Imperialism ending a lot sooner than it thought.

What on earth makes you think Trump speaks for the American People

The US negotiated it. The US pretended to be impartial negotiators. The US are totally untrustworthy people to deal with. Their word is worth nothing and their integrity is zilch. I will accept that after 9/11 on the shouting of Bush, Blair got the EU also to declare Hamas a terrorist group and by that in reality make sure the two state deal was dead. As hypocrites your country surpasses all.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n05/alastair-crooke/permanent-temporariness

The deal was between The US, Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China. The only one to show it's word is not worth the paper it is written on is the US.

Europe is pledging it will stay by the deal as will Russia and China. That leaves the US alone.

Now as to what Iran intends to do. Well it is going to take a bit of time

https://www.juancole.com/2018/05/rouhani-deciding-nuclear.html

The US has no plan. All it is doing is imposing sanctions on Iran for keeping her part of the JCPA agreement. The US hopes to hurt the ordinary people of Iran so that they will rise up and create Regime Change - at least I had thought that is the way you are expecting this to be Regime Chance because Regime Change is what everything I have read says is your only plan - I would imagine you are expecting something a bit like Syria you know but possibly you believe you can just sneak in - I think that would be unwise.

 

The Iranian people didn't back this Iran Deal, only the American hating Iranian Government;
Iranian's civilians lives weren't being made any better with the Iran deal, so they didn't care about America backing out.
Why should the Iranian dictorship get what it wants from America while chanting Death to America?
It wasn't going to help out everyday Iranians.

**** the Iranian Government.

 

Death to Iran!

 

Well, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.. That is all that I am saying. And yet of course I would like to think that principled, moral people will not be corrupted by power. But the longer one stays in power, the more the temptation, given the number of tempters.

Here is a fact. Hundreds of people who worked in the reagan admin, were prosecuted for corruption and crimniality, with many getting into big trouble. Yet, this has happened throughout our history, but that was a particularly bad one. Since that time, it seems that all of DC had a come to jesus moment, got saved, and are now eligible for sainthood. ha ha. No longer do we see criminality and corruption as we did under reagan, so this has to mean that DC changed, and changed do drastically. Got religion. Of course, anyone with a few living brain cells knows this has not happened. So what did change then? How about actually going after criminality and corruption? Could that be what changed? After all, humans have not changed in this area since at least the rise of civilization thousands of years ago.

So, your perception of little criminality and corruption in DC must be based on whether or not these people are caught, and prosecuted? Well, that dog just won't hunt.