Trump orders creation of a standalone Space Force

I understand that the requirement is very important to you. If it does not have the man power, it shouldn't get its own branch, in your opinion. Fair enough. I did not use the term "space recon", but I am sure you know that recon is done from space.

 

How does it defend our satellites? What defense weapon are you talking about?

 

You are simply projecting your bias to something that is created by a president you don't like.

Are you trying to say you want to let China and Russia have weapons capability that we do not have? You seem to be more interested in finding something to be angry about than actually looking at the problem.

So are you saying you want Trump to bring this to the floor of congress? I wouldn't really be against that, but I see it as very hypocritical that you are playing word games about military weapons capability because you hate the current President. I could EASILY see someone saying the exact same thing about things like Cyber Command

 

By what measure and what does that have to do with anything? You're desperate now.

So it's only a matter of size not mission? You think the reason the air forces were split from the Army was because of size? Where did you get this from? Do you know the difference between tactical and strategic? The Army retained tactical air forces but the strategic needs shifted to the Air Force. Do you know what that means?

 

"Starship Troopers" is on the Commandants of the Marine Corps reading list.
Read the book and you'll understand why. -> https://www.marines.mil/News/Messag...of-the-commandants-professional-reading-list/

U.S. Marines are better read than liberals.

A "Space Force" ends any interservice rivalry.

On the tv series Star Trek there's the Star Ship Enterprise that's based on the U.S. Navy's aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN-65)
(FYI: The Star Ship Enterprise was constructed at the Mare Island U.S. Naval Shipyard and assembled in space)
Star Fleet Command organization and officers ranks and crew members ratings are based on the U.S. Navy

For over 50 years the U.S. Air Force were pissed off at Gene Roddenberry for not basing Star Fleet on the U.S. Air Force.

 

Space based reconnaissance is owned by the National Reconnaissance Office (IMINT) and the National Security Agency (SIGINT/MASINT/ELINT). We don't need a space force for that.

 

By maneuvering them. The way any satellites would be defended from attack.

 

The Air Force already handles military space missions. What weapon is Trump proposing that only a new separate branch of the military could handle?

I'd love for him to bring it Congress and get all the testimony from his own military officers that such a move is not necessary and would instead amount to a waste of resources.

 

Develop an Air Force and Space Command. Make it part of the Air Force for now just as the Army Air Corps was part of the Army, then was the Army Air Forces. Then in 1947 became the U S Air Force.

Some day an Earth Space Command can become separate military organization.

It can be fond, it should be done, it needs to be done.

 

Personnel and equipment. The 1947 USAAF was objectively larger than the entire 1940 US Army (including the USAAF of its time).

Is Air Force Space Command unable to handle the mission? I've asked that at least a dozen times and not a single person has presented the evidence that they can't handle it.

The Army did NOT retain tactical air forces. Tell me how many tactical fighter aircraft does the Army operate?

 

The Air Force already has a Space Command.

 

As I pointed out in a post far far away the Air Force started out as a part of he Army. First Signal , then Corps Army Air Corps then the US Air Force.

 

And it grew into its own branch as it’s mission grew.

We might have a need that justifies the redundant bureaucracy of a separate branch in 50 to 60 years. But for the foreseeable future, Air Force Space Command is perfectly capable of handling the mission.

 

Yes I am aware of that ! I am retired USAF and get publications such as the Air Force Times etc . I would start how building that into something more viable.

 

I am not saying do it tomorrow but start building up,the Space Command now before the Chinese and the Moskvalites get a jump,on us.

 

What do you mean “more viable”?

Are you people thinking that we’re going to start building space battlecruisers or something?

 

Building it up to do what? What mission or capability should it have that it doesn’t?

How do we expand its capabilities without violating the Outer Space Treaty?

 

In 20-40 years, we may have Mech robots.(Or as I like to call them, Gundams.) And I hope I'm mentally capable/ready enough to pilot one . In all seriousness, space warfare and colony living are almost an inevitable progression of the human race. Why restrict ourselves to the earth?

 

Space warfare in the real world is almost totally pointless. You just end up destroying each other because of hang time from firing weapons and the fact that any viable space weapon would be self guiding, on top of the fact that stealth in space is impossible.

 

No do not turn this into a silly assed discussion. What we need now is satellite and anti satellite combat capabilities. The capability of AI needs to be enhanced and developed. We need to push harder in developing propulsion systems that we have just begun to theorize.

 

You do it as research , as space exploration, as scientific inquiry, as scintific reaearch. If we get caught we just claim that we are on a mission to domwhat is best for our country and for mankind.

 

In this day and age, stealth in warfare is harder and harder to accomplish. You don't have soldiers diving under the grass tunic anymore. And that's because of heat sensors. Warfare's going to become more and more open, like these shooting video games demonstrate lol. Yes, it's a long way from now and you might compare it to Reagan's Star Wars program(the last time this was done.) However, it was noted in a not too-recent article that they wish they kept the program alive, as certain experiments/developing technologies turned out to be necessary.

 

We have anti satellite capabilities. The US has had a demonstrated anti-satellite capability since the 80's. What do you mean by satellite combat? Do you mean satellites designed to fight other satellites? What's the point behind that when you can base anti-satellite weapons on Earth and not violate the Outer Space Treaty?

No space propulsion system is going to mean anything until someone is willing to develop a nuclear engine for spacecraft and accept the literal and figurative fallout from the first time one explodes while trying to reach orbit.

 

Are you serious??!? You don't see the value in controlling space, and being able to protect and defend our assets there, in terms of national security.?!??!

Really?

Really..???!???!

 

What scientific inquiry would require weapons in space?