Why should we be worried about the Russian threat to Norway.... than Norway is?!? Bottom line, it's their country. We can no longer function as the world's piggybank, we are putting OUR needs first, just like everyone other nation does.
Because any war that ensued after an invasion of Norway would cost us much more than it would cost Norway, or anyone else, for that matter.
If Norway won't defend Norway, why should the US defend Norway? We can only help those willing to help themselves. LAUGHING STOCK Germany’s soldiers forced to use BROOMSTICK for a gun as Donald Trump blasts Angela Merkel over NATO spending The highly embarrassing episode, revealed in a leaked report, is just the beginning of the country's woes as it fights to reverse chronic army shortages What a farce https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/67435...-donald-trump-angela-merkel-defence-spending/
Norway will defend Norway, but they could not do so successfully against russia or a russian led coalition.
Well, I wish them luck, they are about 20% even the bare minimum spending they themselves committed to military spending as part of the NATO alliance.
Please explain how the US will benefit if Luxembourg, Norway, etc. increase their defense spending? Why don't we just decrease our defense spending? That would really enable us to do some great things domestically.
Because in a major war in Europe if the Russians seized major air bases in Norway (like Bodo) then they could effectively threaten the U.S. ability to move shipping across the North Atlantic.
Everything they pick up in defense of their own county is that much less we have to spend in blood and treasure if they are endangered, and its their fkn county. Further, in order to be part of an effective self-defense pact, you should be able to offer assistance if one of the other nation's in the pact needs help. If you do not prepare to do that, you are just a free-loader and we shouldn't put our population at risk of a Nuclear exchange to protect free-loaders. If they value the mutual self-defense pact, they need to increase their military expenditures to at least the NATO minimum, which they are currently missing by 77%. Another free-loading farce. Well, one barrier is all these excessively expensive mutual defense commitments with a bunch of free-loaders.
Did anyone mention guidelines? Or 2024? Must be in there somewhere. I think someone did mention Treaty. Doesn't Congress do treaties?
I wish they would simply make at least the minimum NATO standard of 2% GDP in military spending, but if they don't want to, clearly that's their choice, ultimately, it's country. So two things, We don't have a mutual defense agreement with Panama, but any nation making an aggressive move on the canal would be committing an act of war against the US. If Norway is foolish, gets their ass in a bind and wants Uncle Sugar to bail their free-loading asses out, then we will determine what our best interests are at that time, but, if Trump's making the deal, it won't be a freebie, I can pretty much guarantee you that it would be cheaper for them to consistently make, at least, their minimum NATO spending commitments.
But they do spend on their own defense and enough to counter any threat there currently is. Yes trough NATO But the US doesnt, when was NATO ever used to defend any european country? The only time it was used was in defense of the US and it costed NATO members lives to defend the US. Again the high defense spending from the US have little to do with "defending europe" and everything to do with projecting power arund the world and defending us intrests around the world, that and starting some stupid wars like iraq in 2003 thats costed trillions.
Yep once more he got donald to do the dirty work for him the undermine NATO. Seeing how cheap he got donald putin is a genious.
Thats simply not true. Yep the rest can be used but there was some issue with a sensor . The US has been increasing its defense spending the last decades. ANd what do you fear to justify that high defense spending btw?
NATO doesn't seem to Value the US role in it. They disrespect the US by not meeting their quota and then b**** at the US when we complain about it. With friends like Europe who needs enemies?
So much for "Trump doing Putin's bidding". Do I need to BUST OUT the Obama Groveling for Putin Collection...AGAIN? The Russian pipeline to Germany that Trump is so mad about, explained BERLIN — When German officials headed to the NATO summit in Brussels this week, they were already prepared for what they considered to be an inevitable attack by President Trump over their low defense spending. But on Wednesday morning, Trump took aim at the Germans for a very different reason: an 800-mile-long, planned pipeline beneath the Baltic Sea. The German government has been pursuing its Nord Stream 2 project for years, despite criticism from the United States and some Eastern European nations. Trump renewed the long-standing U.S. criticism of the project on Wednesday, and doubled down by tying it to the future of NATO. “Germany, as far as I’m concerned, is captive to Russia because it’s getting so much of its energy from Russia,” Trump told NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, speaking on camera. “We have to talk about the billions and billions of dollars that’s being paid to the country we’re supposed to be protecting you against.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...o-mad-about-explained/?utm_term=.1e245751f04b IN addition to THIS:
Why the hell would the USA sign a treaty with most of those European nations in the first place? That was not good.
France didn't let one of our jets fly over one time and got a bunch of American Pilots killed. I could care less about France. I also wouldn't mind seeing the EU and Russia duke it out while we watch from the sidelines.
The Patrouille Acrobatique de France flies the Dassault Alpha introduced in the early 1970's -- and they ain't a much compared to the Blue Angels who fly the F/A-18 Hornet or Thunderbirds who fly the F-16 Fighting Falcon. Of course France just ain't a much anyway, especially an Islamicized France
Putin's master plan is to send his puppet Trump over to Nato to get all the countries in NATO to spend more on their defense... Brilliant!!!
