Trump has chosen his Supreme Court nominee, source says

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by US Conservative, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. Plus Ultra

    Plus Ultra Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2017
    Messages:
    3,028
    Likes Received:
    1,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It had better not, the FBI is supposed to take a low profile to avoid interfering with the electoral process, this is what Democrats complained Comey should have done in Hillary's 'matter'. Most commentary I've seen on this is that Mueller needs to suspend activities soon and wait until after the election to avoid the same mistake Comey made.
     
    US Conservative likes this.
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,566
    Likes Received:
    39,323
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He has given his opinion that CONGRESS should change the law. Read the entire paper he wrote which is about separation of powers and this just one part of it. You do realize there is SCOTUS precedent here? The SCOTUS has already ruled that a sitting President can face a civil lawsuit for non-official acts. He has protection for official acts but not for those that and not official acts on his part. Kavanaugh's says in his paper on the matter that CONGRESS needs to change that by legislation. Until they do it is settled law.

    And let's not forget that is what the Starr SPO of which he was an assistant prosecutor did. The grand jury indicted Clinton for felonies and Strarr took that to the Speaker of the House for impeachment and removal so he could prosecute. The Democrats said felony perjury and obstruction of justice does not warrant removal from office (they did have the votes to stop the impeachment and he remains impeached).

    So why should Trump be treated differently?
     
    US Conservative likes this.
  3. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He shouldn't be treated any differently.

    Dems have pivoted again.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Plus Ultra

    Plus Ultra Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2017
    Messages:
    3,028
    Likes Received:
    1,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    While the rabble-rousers can easily draw attention to simple things like separating undocumented border crossers from their children, forcing the Little Sisters of the Poor to finance abortions or getting devout Christians to bake wedding cakes for homosexuals, the influence and importance of lifetime federal judicial appointments is not something that can as easily animate an excitable crowd.

    No president has confirmed a dozen federal appellate judges in his first year as Trump has. He got 6 district-court judges confirmed, and of course, there was Gorsuch. Forty seven more judicial nominees await confirmation. Trump has 102 more federal judgeships to fill. It seems likely in addition to Kennedy's seat, Ginsburg is also likely to go.

    Every president leaves his mark on the federal bench, but Mr Trump’s will be larger than most, for two reasons. First, Senate Republicans confirmed fewer judges in Barack Obama’s last two years (just 22) than in any two-year period since 1951-52. Mr Obama left office with 107 federal judgeships still vacant, double the number George W. Bush had at his presidency’s end.

    Second, in 2013 Senate Democrats eliminated the filibuster for judicial appointments, which means judges can be confirmed with a simple majority vote, rather than the 60 required to break a filibuster. For many conservatives, this opportunity alone (and keeping Hillary from exploiting it) justified their support for Trump.

    While the critical left went around denouncing Trump's misogynism, racism and ethnophobia, he was consulting with constitutional scholars and conservative think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society, to come up with a long list of nominees to fill the huge vacancies on the federal bench. Everyone knew he had to fill Scalia's seat, the left resented this, but nothing that would raise the rabble.

    All these judicial appointments was something that excited conservatives though. Many of us were sensibly concerned over the drift of the Supreme Court and plenty of other federal courts. We were also aware of the hundreds of pending judicial appointments stalled by political bickering.

    Trump realized reforming the judiciary was important to his conservative base, we'd watched the antics of the 9th Circuit, and seen plenty of what are termed "activist judges" trying to expand LGBTQetc rights, restricting firearms possession, impinging on free speech, constitutional rights for undocumented border crossers... These are evolutions that conservatives rightly see dangerously eroding the character and core values of the nation -it was important to us this drift be halted and Trump knew he had to be ready.
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,566
    Likes Received:
    39,323
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I just find it amazing that the Dems/Left/MSM whined incessantly that Clinton could not be sued civilly, the SCOTUS ruled otherwise, and that you could not be indicted while he was in office and we need to let Presidents "do the people's business" when he had been caught dead to rights committing felonies in a federal court and a federal grand jury and NOW they are crying for Trumps head on a stake and charged and prosecuted. And IN FACT he was not prosecuted while in office, the SC office, after the Democrats said those felonies did not warrant removal from office, waiting until he was leaving office to present him with the indictment.

    Can any on the left explain why Trump should be treated different?
     
  6. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,399
    Likes Received:
    52,004
    Trophy Points:
    113
  7. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Zorro likes this.
  8. Plus Ultra

    Plus Ultra Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2017
    Messages:
    3,028
    Likes Received:
    1,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nobody on the left can explain that, but everyone on the right knows the answer.
     
  9. Plus Ultra

    Plus Ultra Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2017
    Messages:
    3,028
    Likes Received:
    1,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
  10. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,399
    Likes Received:
    52,004
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There is almost universal praise for Brett Kavanaugh from the majority of conservative and GOP quarters while blood is shooting out of every orifice of the Left.

    Kavanaugh: The Perfect Choice for the Season of Resistance

    For 60 years The Left has used an unelected Court to impose "progressivism" on a Sovereign People. We are on the brink of a half-step closer to finally returning to our system of rule by Elected Representation.
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2018
    US Conservative likes this.
  11. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,399
    Likes Received:
    52,004
    Trophy Points:
    113
    From your lips to God's ears.

    Millions Dead, Constitution Destroyed and Other Ridiculous Predictions About SCOTUS Nominee Brett Kavanaugh

    As the Dems desperately try to rally their base for November, now mostly about Kavanaugh, polling shows that any shot they may have had or may have thought they had about minimally retaking the Senate has all but evaporated. The hair-on-fire outrage is not a turn-on to most voters.
     
    US Conservative likes this.
  12. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Really. You can carry with ammo at the national NRA meeting?
     
  13. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why? What do you think the Supreme Court's role in impeachment consists of.
     
  14. Crownline

    Crownline Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2016
    Messages:
    6,472
    Likes Received:
    6,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You missed it again.
    If the goal is to impeach trump, you better get on with it before he accomplishes too much. He has already picked two justices with possibly a third on the horizon. What would be the point in waiting until he is termed out to go for impeachment? All this sky screaming and trump keeps rolling along.
     
    US Conservative likes this.
  15. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gee I thought they were banned when NRA supporters Trump and Pence were present. Seems like hypocracy to me.
     
  16. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Zorro likes this.
  17. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They always miss the point.
     
  18. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,399
    Likes Received:
    52,004
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This approach isn't working, and It doesn't appear to me that they are smart enough to think up a new one. Pelosi can't even remember Cocaine Mitch's name.
     
  19. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You can't forget him...
    [​IMG]
     
    Zorro likes this.
  20. Plus Ultra

    Plus Ultra Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2017
    Messages:
    3,028
    Likes Received:
    1,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not only that, but there are 2-3 Democrat Senators in blue states Trump carried who are running for re-election confronting Republican challengers in close races, those Senators are already sounding less outraged.

    Of course this is all so typical and quite predictable. I thought Trump's summit with Kim was the most blatant evidence of complete Democrat intransigence, the "Resistance" or NeverTrumpers were taking things too far in their efforts to oppose everything Trump does.

    Yes his misogynistic, xenophobic and perhaps racist remarks need to be repudiated, but not everything he ever says or does is that awful. The legislature just passed some sort of resolution expressing solidarity with NATO, simply because Trump is out there expressing criticism for the inadequate military spending of other members.

    Trump withdraws from the Global Warming treaty, Democrats claim the whole world is headed for catastrophe. Trump supported allowing that pipeline, Democrats denounce this will contaminate the environment and desecrate Native American sacred lands. Trump opposes unfettered immigration so Democrats demand the abolition of ICE. Trump wants to restrict access to people from countries with serious terrorism problems, so Democrats call him a racist and demand no restrictions against Muslims. Trump wants a constitutional literalist on the Supreme Court bench and, of course, Democrats see this as apocalyptic.

    Not everything is so dramatic, in the Kavanaugh case there is actually lots of nuance, closer scrutiny to his decisions raises questions over whether this will necessarily result in women having to resort to wire hangers for their abortions. He is a devout Catholic, we strongly oppose abortion, but we also oppose contraception and Kavanaugh recognized Catholic religious groups could be required to provide this in their medical coverage.

    Kavanaugh will eventually get confirmed, but Democrats, pandering to their base will make this a very ugly process and that should yield two effects; more despair among the rabble rousers who will be frustrated since he's getting confirmed anyway; and a strengthened solidarity among conservatives appalled at the disgusting display of lefty intransigence.
     
    US Conservative and Zorro like this.
  21. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And you don't think global warming is going to be catastrophic?
     
  22. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    16,798
    Likes Received:
    17,571
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It depends on local laws.
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2018
  23. Paradox_

    Paradox_ Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2017
    Messages:
    51
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    In 1998, he sang a different song. When he was asked whether a sitting president could not be indicted as a matter of law at a Georgetown Law School conference, he rose his hand. He’s seemingly teetered back & forth on this issue which was undoubtedly good enough for Trump. It’s been reported already that the Trump administration looked into Kavanaugh’s opinions about indicting a sitting president so it undoubtedly played a role in the decision-making here.

    As for the Starr special counsel, Starr believed he had the authority to indict Clinton. That special counsel even wrote legal memos justifying the indictment of a sitting president. Starr decided to simply leave it to Congress because he felt that was the more “prudent” course of action.

    https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2018/07/11/brett-kavanaugh-president-indicted-709641

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/22/us/politics/can-president-be-indicted-kenneth-starr-memo.html
     
  24. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Let them draw it out, all it does is remind people why they aren't voting for democrats.

    [​IMG]
     
  25. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,399
    Likes Received:
    52,004
    Trophy Points:
    113
    US Conservative likes this.

Share This Page