Trump has chosen his Supreme Court nominee, source says

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Sorry fellow but the Democrats set the standard for impeachment and removal, FELONY perjury and obstruction of justice in a FEDERAL COURT and a FEDERAL GRAND JURY do not meet that standard. And you guys are all giddy about Manafort being in a jail cell for witness tampering, well Clinton TAMPERED WITH WITNESSES.

    So you got a loooooooooooong way to be before anything Trump did even comes close, heck he didn't even obstruct justice.

    Why and Trump didn't obstruct anything. If he had Comey had an obligation to file charges. Trump submitted a false affidavit into a federal court and then lied about it before a federal grand jury. That is prima facie evidence of felony perjury and obstruction of justice.

    Democrats said NOPE doesn't meet the standard for removal. So after Trump leaves office if Mueller, or whoever might still be in that office, can try to bring some kinda of charge but there is no evidence to bring so it's a moot point.

    Then why did you claimed he hired admitted felons? No one had admitted anything. He hired unadmitted possible felons. Why did the Clintons go into business and partnerships with some many who were charged with felonies in those dealings and were either convicted or pled and served time in prison? Why of Clintons closest legal buddies did one, who was the Legal Counsel to the President of the United States commit suicide because he was going to prison for trying to cover up her illegalities and the other serve time in prison for his crimes and for not talking, the "I just have to roll over one more time" who also happened to be the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, you know Rosenstein's current position.

    Why all that and the Democrats said Clinton should not be removed from office?
     
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    He did hire felons. Flynn’s an admitted felon. I’m pointing out that guilt by association is a bad argument for the right to make.

    There’s no needed precedent to impeach, it’s in the constitution.
     
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    Certainly do, I analyzed the data long ago, I estimated in about 3 centuries about half of Bangladesh will be underwater, given the projected population of Bangladesh in 3 centuries, this will be a monumental disaster, but its 3 centuries from now, there will be progress, people will come up with solutions, Bangladesh is very low lying, they could build seawalls, grade the land, use ditches... In 3 centuries there's plenty of time.
     
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    There is no standard, a presidential impeachment is a political proceeding. The majority determines whether whatever they charge satisfies the level of outrage required to 'convict'. They declaim the outrage and then show that whatever level of outrage has been breached. Ultimately the question is whether the majority of the people are convinced the expressions of outrage in the impeachment proceedings are credible and convincingly justify the political impeachment. There are no standards for the admission of evidence, no presumption of innocence and the majority decides if any witnesses can testify. If it is a farce, the public will be uncertain of the legitimacy of any determination.
     
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    As for the Starr special counsel, Starr believed he had the authority to indict Clinton. That special counsel even wrote legal memos justifying the indictment of a sitting president. Starr decided to simply leave it to Congress because he felt that was the more “prudent” course of action.It wasn't simply leave it to Congress, Clinton was indicted by the grand jury. Starr took that and the evidence to the Speaker of the House to see if they would start an impeachment so he could then prosecute once removed from office. The Democrats refused saying the felonies Clinton committed did not warrant removal so the indictments were held off until his last week in office when Robert Ray took them to the White House and said here they are and they will be presented the day after you leave office. Clinton choose to plea bargain.

    What Kavanaugh has written is that that is the law and Congress should pass some legislation to give some delay protections for some types of possible legal actions so a President is not hampered by lower matters or even a lawsuit filed just to harass and impede him. That is a discussion for the Congress the courts can't rule that they have to rule what the LAW says.
     
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    There are certainly precidents which set standards. As usual Democrats tend to act expeditiously for political purposes and those precidents come back to haunt them. You can rest assured the clips of Schumer stating that no justice nominee should be ask about cases which may come before them will be run at least on Fox News. And removal takes a supermajority and the Dems clearlyvsaid obstruction of justice even perjury did not rise to that level.
     
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    Why would it be a disaster you think they are going to just sit there for 300 years while the water goes over their heads?
     
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    What felony had Flynn committed that Trump knew about when he was hired? How about Manfort?
     
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    Seems to me this is a done deal:
    The only question here is how will the confirmation process be handled?

    I expect the Republican Senators to overwhelmingly support Kavanaugh's appointment, he is an excellent candidate, and not just ideologically, this judge is very well respected, his decisions are cited to support arguments in other cases and the courts where those cases are heard reaffirm Kavanaugh's holdings. This is a good pick.

    If the nomination hearings present angry Democrat Senators denouncing their mistaken interpretations of Kavanaugh's highly respected decisions on issues like abortion, contraception and gay rights, it will become an absurd process and one in which they will ultimately fail. They will fail primarily because Kavanaugh is really a Washington insider, he's been there for at least a dozen years presiding over the second most important court in the Capitol, he's not getting 'Borked'. But I expect the Democrats will try, that this is not going to make them look good and ultimately it is pointless since Kavanaugh will be confirmed.
     
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    He makes a good point!

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    Hillary Comes Unhinged Over Trump SCOTUS Nominee Kavanaugh ‘They Want to Take Us Back to the 1850’s’
     
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    Feinstein to CA Dems: Now watch me as a fully operational Kavanaugh death star, or something

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    Futility.
     
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    He's going to be confirmed. There isn't really anything the Democrats can do. They get to thank Harry Reid for getting the ball rolling for rule changes.
     
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    Seems the critical left isn't mobilizing enough against Kavanaugh, not fundraising enough either. Maybe when the confirmation hearing gets televised they'll get excited again (I blame their short attention spans).
     
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    The MSM has ADD. They are not done frothing at the mouth about the Trump summit to proceed with new marching orders on the confirmation. :grin:
     
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    The Clinton era revealed that Dems really have no standards. The Trump era has revealed that they are also insane.
     
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    Confirmation vote on mid-term’s eve?
     
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    I'm looking forward to the confirmation hearings, I expect if these are held just before the midterms the performances by the Democrats, and especially the media commentary will do the trick at the ballot box.
     
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    ANY WEAPON TO HAND:

    New York Times Targets Brett Kavanaugh’s Wife.

    When Stephen Breyer, Ruth Ginsburg, Sonia Sotamayor and Elena Kagan were appointed to the Court, did the Times, or the Associated Press, try to investigate documents sent or received by their family members?” ​

    Of course not, because shut up.
     
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    Its the double standard lefty snowflakes must hide behind.
     
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    The Fake News outfits are just awful. The NYT has young reporters hooking for dirt to print on Trump and now they are sliming the nominees wife? Lately this seems to be blowing up in their faces.
     
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    There must be a glitch in their programming code.
     
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    Something about Trump. His enemies charge him and then at the last moment pull up and self destruct.
     

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