I watched, I believe Kavanaugh and not Ford, the whys behind.

He knows, and TRUMP TOLD HIM TO refuse, evade and obfuscate the call for an FBI investigation and put it all on the congress.

This was an OBVIOUSLY coached tactic. OBVIOUSLY.

 

If someone sees a murder happening, I can guarantee that there's some facts they saw. Murder weapon, the victim's body, the assailant's body, anything. What this 'case' was, is Ford and her(backstabbing) lawyers jumping steps to go to the Senate, when they needed to speak to the Maryland PD first.

 

IT is worse than that. They would have negative findings, that would help clear his name. Thus, KNOWING there would be no evidence, one would REQUIRE, scream and yell, for an investigation to clear his name. ALL the women offered to go under oath, and complete an extensive polygraph.

 

There were no bodily fluids. No murder weapon. NO witnesses other than his accomplice. Funny how rapists are not performance artists.

 

Then yeah, that's going to be a very hard case just like this one. Normally, some unsuspecting person discovers the body. The major difference from murder to rape, is that a person's typically 'missing'(dead), which then invokes the police. It's impossible to murder someone and not trigger an investigation. The only possibility is if you murdered someone with no family, no friends and no acquitances that would care. Out in the wilderness in some kind of cabin LOL.

With rape/sexual assault, unless the predator did one of those rape-murder things, or a brutal physical assault(that should be reported to a hospital), you generally have a very short time for gathering the evidence. So yes, I'll confess it's hard to try rape/sexual assault cases.

It's even harder when you fail, completely to substantiate your claim, name "assailants" and then be caught lying on fly-gate.

 

You really do, when the 4 she cited said shes FOS?

Kindly elucidate.

I just need your evidence, because otherwise it sounds like you are against innocent until proven guilty.

18th century agriculturalists would laugh at you, imo.

But also in the constitution.

 

Possibly but its quite clear by now the story is true.

Oh no doubt under trump there wil be more sexual predators nominated to high places.

 

That some posters on the right do not understand how investigations work is the problem above.

They repeatedly indicate above that they do not understand.

 

I believe Ford. I do not think what you described are holes or even surprising. I don't know that I disbelieve Kavanaugh either though. He did lie about stuff in his testimony, such as his drinking habits about the notion that Ford's friend "refuted" her claim, but seemed pretty convinced he didn't do it. Probably too drunk to remember. One of those guys whose nice when sober and horrible when drunk, I guess, not that he came across as particularly nice during the hearing while presumably sober.

 

It's sort of sad that you think that's a good thing. It's a good example of why I don't believe in evil, only ignorance.

 

I agree that Brett should be confirmed, but trying to "gotcha!" Ford over this is counter-productive. People who are scared of flying still fly.

The GOP line should be to get affirmations from 16 of their Senators that they will vote to convict Brett if he's ever convicted of a sexual crime.

 

Evil exists, so does ignorance, and we saw that yesterday on the GOP side in the hearing.

 

I don't believe there is any evidence there even was a party at all. Ford can't recall where or when it took place. Her "witness" remembers no such party or even knowing who Brett Kavanaugh is.

There is no where to even start an investigation.

 

I think she's talking bollocks and made it all up for political purposes and the sheep are lapping it up because they have very poor critical reasoning skills and incapable of independent thought.

 

The ABA is calling for an FBI investigation and delay of the vote.

 

How did she know which room was the bathroom in a house she can't remember the address or even what city it was in?

If theywere sloppy drunk she would have heard them.

Why didn't she?

There will be plenty of time after the confirmation, SCOTUS Justices are impeachable.

So?

The witnesses she said were there deny it ever happened.

 

No need to delay the vote SCOTUS Justices are impeachable. If Kavanagh did what they say they can bounce him out.

 

I also heard her say that she expected someone to go to her for the interview, yet that is exactly what the GOP offered and her lawyer said no.

 

You think after 35 years all these people live on the same block? They will have to criss cross the country looking for them and how do they even find people who were at these parties when no one can say when they were or who was there.

 

I have a friend living in Germany who is terrified of flying but that does not stop her visiting England several times a year.

 

Have you never been to higher education institutes. It's not unusual to go to several parties a month and often you only hear of a party going on when on a night out and often gatecrash. So yes, not knowing the details of how you got to a party or the details of how you got home happens regularly.

 

Is this point true? If so why has it been ignored. The conspiracy in the post shortly after yours is pathetic.

 

If people focused on substance instead of play acting then Kavanaugh is a clear winner. He presented the facts and thefacts only. Verifiable facts. It's just ridiculuous that we're even having a discussion whose case was more convincing. For heaven's sake, even her friends cannot verify her story. On the contrary, under the oath they stated that the party has never happened.

 

There are so many holes in Dr. Ford's statements and testimony. If you begin with the simple fact that most of us can remember the days of our lives that impact us most like they were yesterday! I remember 9/11, the birth of my children, the death of my mother, and other days like they were yesterday! Starting there, Dr. Ford remembers very little about this day beyond the location of the house and Brett Kavanaugh and Mark Judge as her accused attackers. A location 20 minutes by car from her home, she doesn't remember how she got there or how she got home. Her best friend was there, but that person remembers none of this and claims to not know Kavanaugh. At 15 years of age, if you were assaulted, your best friend is who you would run to for help and protection, but that never happened. She admits to attending multiple parties after the assault with Kavanaugh and Judge present. If she was so traumatized by this event, she would never go back to another party. It just isn't going to happen ever! Even more so with her accused attackers present! Even the prosecutor asked that question and everyone just ignored the almost flippant response. Then we get to the flying. A world traveler that could not make it to DC for a Monday hearing because she was afraid of flying. And the Judiciary Committee offered to come to her, but that was rejected by her attorney's who can be disbarred if they truly didn't discuss that offer with her. Her statement that she has been scarred for life with terrors and problems that make it difficult to function, yet somehow she earned a Bachelor's Degree, two Master's Degrees, and a Doctorate. She has, by appearances, lived a happy full life to date under all that suffering. Kudos for her achieving that! Why did she hire an "activist" law firm as her attorney and take a "ridiculous" two question polygraph before any of this became public if you were demanding anonymity?

So many here claim they know Brett Kavanaugh as an entitled rotten individual. How can any one of you make that claim not knowing the man? How can any one of you make that claim and not claim the same of Ford? She apparently, to her claim, ran in the same circles and has the same entitle opportunities attending private school, etc!

There are very few people positing here without biases, me included. I think if we found someone without bias that examined the facts as introduced they would say sometime, somewhere Dr. Ford was assaulted by someone. The likelihood that it was Bretty Kavanaugh is extremely close to zero percent. Again, simply based on the facts presented.

 

The thing is, she only "remembers" what little she claims because of a so called repressed memory that was brought out in therapy. After a number of people were falsely arrested and some jailed for child abuse based solely on recovered repressed memories back in the 80's it was pretty much determined that this therapy was quackery. I would have thought any competent therapist wouldn't use it anymore. The recovered memories are unreliable at best and many times resulted in false memories.