I want to create a large private city in middle america that can outright ban guns.

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    Huh? You can't legally kill anyone for solely being on your property without permission.
     
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    No, grabbing someone trespassing on your private property and locking them up rather than turning them over to civil authorities is considered kidnapping.
     
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    So long as your grovel before your rulers and never violate any of their Holy precepts.
     
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    The response on the part of yourself does not answer the question. It does not even begin to attempt to answer the question. There are no citations of what criteria is being referred to in determining whether a particular country qualifies as being "free" or even how the determination presented in the citation was arrived at to begin with.

    Again, cite the criteria that is being referred to by yourself. Not the opinions of some third party, but that basis used in arriving at such a determination.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    https://freedomhouse.org/our-work
     
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    Great idea. It's not fair that good people should have to suffer because others support overly lax gun laws.
     
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    What does the gun death rate have to fall to for you to feel that laws are no longer "overly lax"?
     
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    Once again. The response on the part of yourself does not answer the question. It does not even begin to attempt to answer the question. There are no citations of what criteria is being referred to in determining whether a particular country qualifies as being "free" or even how the determination presented in the citation was arrived at to begin with.

    Again, cite the criteria that is being referred to by yourself. Not the opinions of some third party, but that basis used in arriving at such a determination.
     
  9. Xenamnes

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    Pray tell, who exactly are these individuals that are suffering because of such reasons? What firearm-related restrictions are being exploited for the purpose of causing harm to others? Demonstrate such.
     
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    School children, everyday citizens out in public, families of people killed by police, gang infested cities that can't ban guns
     
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    what harm perpetrated by people using guns is not punished severely. what are the lax laws you are braying about?
     
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    most harm perpetrated by armed individuals, involves people who are already banned under federal and state laws, from merely possessing firearms. SO those people are already banned.
     
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    Such as whom? Those who were murdered by someone who stole the firearms used in the commission of their crimes? Or those who passed federally mandated background checks before legally procuring firearms?

    Citations of such.

    Such is a problem stemming from the training of law enforcement officers, not on firearm-related restrictions.

    Such as the city of Chicago, or the district of columbia when it had a total firearms prohibition in effect for over thirty years?
     
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    How about making gun owners liable if their gun is stolen? Also those who could legally buy it.

    The constant mass shootings

    Due to the 2A everyone is assumed to be armed, leading to 1000+ shootings/killings by police a year.

    Yeah and they were not having as much gun violence when it was banned.
     
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    Why should a victim be charged with a crime?

    Since 1999, there have been 36 kids killed in a mass shooting with an "assault weapon" at school. Since 1999 there have been 31,000 kids age 5-18 killed in car wrecks. If the school shootings make you sadder or angrier than the car deaths, it's not about children's lives.

    The 2A doesn't give criminals the right to be armed. Cops aren't afraid of CCW holders.

    You really should look at the data before making stupid claims.

    Chicago - McDonald was 2012.

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    Washington, DC. Heller was 2010.

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    -1982-present, there were 16 mass school shootings of all kinds, resulting in 162 deaths for an average of 4.30 deaths per year.
    -77 of these deaths, 47.53%, involved the use of an ‘assault weapon’, for an average of 2.04 deaths per year.
     
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    Um no we have had 1 incident of a gun going off on school grouds per week from Jan-June last school year alone.
     
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    Who is "we"?
     
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    The United Guns of America
     
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    The cast of Foster's Imaginary Friends.
     
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    I want to create a large private city in middle america that can outright ban guns.

    Good Luck with that.....
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    The libertarian party would be on my side as they are anarchy-capitalist, The green party/enviormentalist would be on my side as it would also be used as a testing ground for cleaner energy and resources, the left would be on my side for creating a progressive town that is free from gun violence, only really the NRA would be against this.
     
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    If you actually read the site, they rank countries based on, political freedom, human rights, and democratic norms.
     
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    For a moment there, I was gonna praise you. That was - before I read your full post. Trust me on that, Bobby, you won't have to worry about us gun toters. We will never go and live in a place like this. It's the indistinguishable from a lake with crocodiles. I don't have an appeal to set a foot in. I don't necessarily say that you're a crocodile, and crocodiles, but I give you an example so you can best understand the extremities here at the table. I affirm that many will agree here.

    We avoid Liberalismoa here. We don't need no gofers where we are.
     
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