US sanctions on Riyadh would mean Washington is stabbing itself

US sanctions on Riyadh would mean Washington is stabbing itself

Sanction would be the minimum response to assassination and torture of a United States resident in a foreign embassy and show a measure of the self respect and standards this nation stands for....so it is unlikely to happen. Especially as it might hurt the Presidents bottom line, which is way beyond any redline he might see.

 

American bombs are killing Yemeni school children and i has displaced at 14,000 people at least that are facing starvation

MBS is worse than Trump he's taking the weapons and causing a lot of dumb stuff

About 10 years ago I could've gotten a job at LWRC international working on a large contract for building guns for Saudi Arabia

At the time I made a conscious decision that I was going to make weapons for peace from now on

Is the arms deal that important so that nutso Saudi Arabia can go bad iand vaporize their political opponents ?

MBS is trying to have a modern mind but he's lived in the desert for too long

 

A new tank for onllly $8 mil?

Thats pretty cheap

 

Hmmm. Where were the Democrats concerns when Crooked Hillary The Benghazi Butcher allowed our ambassador and soldiers to be killed in Libya?

 

A US made Abrams cost about the same, and is believed to be the best in the world.

Edit: Interesting. The Abrams (or the enhanced version of it - M1A2) is the 3rd best. The Leopard is the #1

1. Nr.1 Leopard 2A7 (Germany) ...
2. Nr.2 K2 Black Panther (South Korea) ...
3. Nr.3 M1A2 SEP (USA) ...
4. Nr.4 Challenger 2 (United Kingdom) ...
5. Nr.5 Armata (Russia) ...
6. Nr.6 Merkava Mk.4 (Israel) ...
7. Nr.7 Type 90 (Japan) ...
8. Nr.8 Leclerc (France)

IMO, if you want to sell them arms, just do it. Don't go to 60 mins to say you'll do it in the same breath you speak about the "bone-saw" incident.

 

It seems to me you can spew your hatred of the U.S. in fewer words. But, nevertheless, taking action that hurts the relationship of the U.S. with Saudi Arabia is certainly not in the best interests of the U.S. But, unlike you, Americans put their ethics above such an interest. I don't know what the U.S. will do about it but it will do something.

No point in debating by quoting Lenin. He has no credibility with me or most Americans. We view his ideas as a loser.

 

Sez you

If the saudis want to buy your tank you would sell it

Unless you were afraid of making your friends the iranians angry at you

 

Trump will sell the arms to SA

As well he should

 

It seems that way, although Congress might have a say in it as can be seen in comments from people like Sen Graham.

 

Unless we want iran to dominate the region we had better support the Saudi royal family

 

It’s simple: The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia murdered a journalist in the Saudi embassy. The President of America, the birthplace of a free press, wants to give it pass. Murder?! Of a journalist?! In an embassy on foreign soil?! Repulsive.

Wait. Let’s not be so idealistic. Let’s be pragmatic, Everyone knows the expediency of the moment outweighs the ideals of principles.

 

That is what we said in the 1980s when we helped Saddam. I guess there is some truth in it as long as Iran is seen as a threat to Israel. This incident was unfortunate, because it made Saudis realize they have far more control over the US than they realized.

 

Its also what we said in 1941 when we helped the soviet union

 

You act as of the death of one non US citizen in a foreign coutry somewhere is a big deal that we must respond to

But it isnt

 

Chris Stevens didn't matter.

 

Pragmatism is not very evident in US foreign policy. The USG actually stopped Saddam from erasing the anti-American Saudi regime.
All we had to do was stay home.

 

It is not about one man. It became a big deal due to the calls from US Congress etc demanding sanctions, and in the end the President had to fold out of fear of losing Saudis as Iran opposing ally. The Saudis publicly responded to the demands with the "in-your-face" threats against the US, and our interests. We look a heck of a lot weaker today than we did a week ago, so yes, it is unfortunate it happened.

 

Chris Stevens was clearly not a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

Only in the eyes of some who have a grudge against saudia arabia to begin with

We will in fact be weaker if we break up the alliance over a minor incident like this

 

It's no secret that the Saudis do this type of thing which is why the CIA started sending terrorist there to be interrogated after 9-11. It is and always has been a brutal country in a part of the world where brutality is the norm. All this sudden hand wringing over the fate of a Saudi citizen that openly cririsized the regime and calls for sanctions is nothing more than the left attempting to create crisis during the trump era and to hopefully cause an oil shortage which would stop Trump's booming economy in it's tracks.

 

It's an imperfect world.

Prosperity for the USA should be the primary goal with more and more jobs.

Stay out of the business of other sovereign countries and foster the trading relationship.

What happens to foreign citizens really isn't the business of the USA.

Just consider Syria, how the MSM wept and moaned and bellyached for seven years all for nought.

 

I don't have any reason to have a grudge against them. I said we look weaker now that Saudis made the in-your-face threat against the US and we folded. I am saying it is unfortunate it happened because it makes us look weaker. I am not saying it would have been a better idea to wreck our relationship with them. I hope the Saudis won't use this newly discovered power over us to play games, because we have our limits as we did with Saddam when he invaded Kuwait.

 

Exactly right. We need to know when we are doing business with a murderous regime and keep that in mind with every transaction but in the real world if we don't do business with tyrants we do very little business. China should top our list of brutal regimes to push aside but nobody calls for that and in fact the left loves China. They say it leads the way in the fight against AGW. Yes the same china that runs protesters over with tanks.

 

75 years of 'Team America World Police' has not made America look strong.

 

We did our best but the world is a cesspool