I want to create a large private city in middle america that can outright ban guns.

That proves not the intentions of the founders, and if they would have reconsidered the 2A if they knew it would be used to grant the right to gun ownership.

 

The Founders considered the right to keep and bear arms to exist prior to the Constitution.

 

They considered it necessary for security not for any random reason.

Thus why they said "A militia necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

The bold parts make it clear that the only reason that is protected in the constitution for owning a gun is to form a militia that is necessary to the security of the state. Nothing else is protected.

The former SCOTUS justices agree.

 

The Senate did not. The SCOTUS for Miller did not. Almost half the states did not. Article 1, Section 8 puts the arming of the militia completely in the hands of Congress. There is no protection.

 

You look so sure you even convinced me. Wow. Isn't that a bummer.

Hm. Let me activate my great knowledge and see if that is true, sir. Hm.

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms only disarm those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one."

A passage that THOMAS JEFFERSON included in his Legal Commonplace Book from 1767.

Hm. I guess you just failed. So badly that it even hurt some babies from the Arctic circle.

 

I'm not at all sure how you can be serious - surely you know all local governments are subdivisions of the state, and thus, the state.

I'm sorry you don't like the fact The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, and that said right of an individual to "keep and bear arms," as protected under the Second Amendment, is incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment against the states - but it is a fact, and there's nothing you can do about it.

 

The bill of rights were not written to grant right to citizens, but to restrict the federal government.
That said, your assertion is unsupportable nonsense.

 

Please - educate yourself.
The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home - 5 supreme court justices say so.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html

 

No need to argue with someone like this one. I've seen people like this one that are on a salary to brainwash other people. That's their job. They're called agent provocateurs.

 

Never argue with people you disagree with.....LOL

 

Exactly. I know, right? That's what I told him.

 

WHO has the right to keep and bear arms according to the 2A?


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No, no No NO!!
He's a well-educated, intelligent man of the world!
He believes people like himself should be able to determine who does and does not have the right to vote, etc.
How can we not take such a person seriously? How can we not obey him?

 

You may be right, but I'm still not moving to Richards Island. Or Iowa.

 

It does not. The second amendment protects private firearms ownership, and recognizes it as a right held by the people for all legal and legitimate purposes.

 

I think you may be right. Should I bow down now, or first make an Altar with his facial characteristics?

 

If that is true, then be sure to avoid mirrors.

 

Hopefully you never become fertile, one is more than enough.

 

Don't forget to bring your guns so you can hunt and defend yourself, last I checked 911 doesn't work well there.

Oops I forgot, never mind you don't need guns, just salt, so you will taste better while being eaten alive by something or someone.

 

No need for dumb guns. I have money and valuables to spare. If they try and mug me, I'll just hand it out to them and even bring them tea with Bulgarian cookies.

 

False dichotomy - the answer is BOTH!

 

Fine. I'm going to town to get some bronze and a stirrer.

 

Corporate City Charter (CCC)
Preamble-The people of Keshiland, are subjects of the Corporate Governing Body and all with in this jurisdiction accept the CGB as their legal government granting them the right to govern and the CCC as the legal constitutional document. This charter shall grant a number of privileges to the subjects of Keshiland, and the boundaries of the CGB

Article 1- Corporate Legislative Body (CLB)
The CLB shall have the full legislative authority over the city, they may make any law not in conflict with the privileges, or prohibitions, and they have the ability to remove the CEP with a fifty percent majority vote or veto any executive action. They are elected every other year by the ranked choice ballot of people in their district.
Article 2- Corporate Executive Person (CEP)
The CEP has the power to call for votes on legislation, and is the head of the law enforcement body. The CEP can grant pardons and immunities, to subjects at their will unless outlawed by the CLB. They are elected every 2 years by ranked choice voting.
Article 3- Corporate Arbitration Litigation (CAL)
All judicial powers are vested in the CAL they shall consist of one head justice appointed by the CEL and 4 lesser justices that are appointed by the CLB the head justice decides what cases are accepted, and can be the sole arbitrator in all cases dealing with the prohibitions of Article 5. All other powers and jurisdictions shall be granted by the CLB. They serve for 10 years.
Article 4- Corporate Executive Leader (CEL)
The CEL is the non political non elected head of the city. They have the power to appoint the head justice and has the authority to exile anyone non currently in a CGB position. They serve till age 65
Article 5- Prohibitions
No subject of Keshiland shall be permitted to, own a fire arm, obtain an abortion unless the mothers life is duly at risk or fetus is dead in the womb, drink alcohol, or smoke Tobacco.
Article 6- Privileges
All subject shall be granted the privilege to use any non prohibited substance, speak out against the CGB, practice religion, protest, assemble, and a trial by jury.
Article 7- Amending Process
By referendum of 2/3rds vote or in the case of the prohibitions 9/10ths vote, or by a vote of 3/4ths by the CEP.

 

Go for it you crazy 21 year old.

 

Guess what?

His Charter, by many parts of it's wording, fails to ban the possession of guns.

Read it again, you will see the errors.