Jair Bolsonaro declared Brazil's next president

Discussion in 'Central & South America' started by alexa, Oct 29, 2018.

  1. JakeStarkey

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    Not really, because their political and cultural desires will not be fulfilled. Tough that.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is about the amount I have heard can be sufficient.
     
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    You really have a problem with the jews... Why bring them in a thread about Brazil?
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I don't have a problem with 'the Jews'. That is the line of the American Christian Right and they do have a problem with 'the Jews' given that their end plan involves the death of almost all of them. Now quit your baiting and I guess if you take what I said in the post you quoted Israel has a problem with 'the Jews'.
     
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    How true, if the other 65% does not wake up and act.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also people not voting. It took only 37% of the electorate to get Brexit.
     
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    Wow! Something that we agree upon. :handshake:

    So, why waste space promoting the fake narrative?
     
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    The "fake narrative" is that Trumpian fascism is not a danger.
     
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    So they chose not to install a socialist. Good for them.
     
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    Please explain how something, that you state won't happen, is a danger.

    Is it like being struck by lightning, or eaten by a shark; something having an essentially zero chance of happening, yet many must obsess over it, and blame their inaginary fears on Trump?
     
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    You keep bringing them in subject that have nothing to do with them. You're the one derailing and baiting by doing so. Keep to the thread subject or leave it.
     
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    Take a peek at their post history and see. Its all pro muslim conservative/HAMAS, anti Jewish/Israel rhetoric only..be careful they are a favorite pet of the powers that be around here.
     
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    11 simple words and gets a /thread

    For some odd reason lefties everywhere have embraced full blown socialism and if you dont agree with that? Your a fascist.

    It fascinates the fk out of me. Where are the critical thinking skills? Leave out the emotion and I am honestly asking where do they think this is gonna go? Too many of us are moderate and dislike extreme views
     
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    The people have made their choice, it will go where it will go.
     
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    I fear totally the Democrats form of government.

    To explain. Since Wilson was president, the aim of the Democrats is to totally control the lives of Americans. To the point they installed income taxes. The promises of the tax was to keep it low and only on the few. But Democrats broke that promise.

    Democrats attempted to "pack" the Supreme court with their types so they always won in court.

    We know it failed. But they had more tricks. Such as crafting a plethora of laws that done as they do things, silently if you will, still bound the nation in bundles of new laws. They pleaded to us, you all need those laws. We will protect you.

    Trouble is they did not protect us. They tied us down. Take Citizens united. It freed humans so the Democrats so hated that they wanted new restrictive laws.

    When Bush acted to protect this nation, things said by Democrats amount to him being evil and having an unjust war.

    Trouble with that is they were who was bombing Saddam for Clinton's 8 years. Clinton bombed other nations too, such as the former Yugoslavia. Why bomb Yugoslavia? Because they did not want to turn over a Serbian part of Yugoslavia to Muslims. Why was Serbia fighting the Muslims? For the same reason we have fought them. They intend like Democrats to seize control of your life. Take our female reporters that talk to Muslims. These women fear Muslims so wear cloth over their heads to comply with Islamic law. What makes women do this? They fear is why.
     
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    Antifa hides. Not the person, but in the costume. They hide like children at trick or treat time.

    Defenders of Antifa need note that they end up on trial. Democrats defend them. Democrats defend that brand of violence.

    Trump is no authoritarian. He does not want to cave in to citizens of other lands,. but for Americans he is in a war to grant me and you more freedom.

    Fascism, and I hope you mean the Mussolini brand of it, is not good for America. We never read republicans saying we want it. We read lies from Democrats bleating we want some. We assure you we do not want any fascism. I voted for Trump on the premise with him our freedoms expand. So far they have. I shall vote for freedom over Democrats all day long.
     
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    The Mussolini-like American brand of fascism is not good for America, yes, but we have too many Republicans supporting it without coming right out in explicit affirmation.

    I shall vote for Americanism over GOP fascism every day.
     
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    The fact of the matter is theres been a very clear global pattern growing and taking over power in countries that are geopolitically considered as leaders/models to some key regions (S. Africa, n. America, s. Pacific, s. Europe, Middle East, and now s. America)

    My opinion has been the same since 2010:
    Controlled challenges to the international order which is mainly to render some sociocultural and economic adjustments to be made to level the differences between continents. This way a world order for a stereotypical political and socioeconomic system can be secured. Manipulation of political demands of the masses is the key. Bringing fascist measures to what used to be considered as Democratic regimes is essential because only through harmonizing eastern and western systems on both hemispheres can such stereotypical world order be made practicle and therefore acceptable by both camps.
     
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    What seems to have won Bolsonaro this election is fake news and post truth as simple as that.

    So,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-truth_politics

    I think that is a good description and I do notice how those on the extreme right on forums totally ignore genuine rebuttal given to them.

    Fake News is I think pretty obvious.

    It also appears that Brazil's media had managed to get itself under even more of a Monopoly than most of us have to bare. So from there we can see big problems with the election - these are the sort of issues which people are talking about could lead to our democracies being taken over by fascism. Brazil at the moment is apparently strongly influenced by neo-Pentecostalism strongly rooted in the community. Anything which gives an impression of something grossly opposed to this would be likely to affect them emotionally and hence their vote....and what do we see
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    http://www.brasilwire.com/psyops-images-from-bolsonaros-illegal-whatsapp-campaign/

    when the tee shirt really said 'Fight like a Girl'

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    http://www.brasilwire.com/psyops-images-from-bolsonaros-illegal-whatsapp-campaign/

    Bannon is given credit for his help in this campaign.


    https://www.opendemocracy.net/democraciaabierta/ana-cristina-suzina/brazil-hijacked-by-post-truth

    There is a lot more but this is how the Brazilian election was won by fake news and post truth things which have certainly been used in the past but which have never had the power they have now. I have only put in a bit of the article but if you have time to read it all you will find how it works. It is what brought Bolsonaro to power and it can work in the US and other countries as well.

    apparently helped by the skills of Steve Bannon. There is more than one article saying Bolsonaro's Campaign was very similar to Trumps - hardly surprising if he had the same helper.

    Alternative British site 'The Canary' points out that the fact that his stated aim of 'cleansing leftist enemies' did not receive strong criticism from the West is somewhat concerning.
     
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    Do you plan to address the substance of my post, or are you just going to stamp your feet because I called out your ignorance. You want this to be about Steve Bannon & 'US Evangelicals'. It isn't.

    What I am 'made of' is the ability to pay attention & understand phenomena in their own terms. You should try it. Beats ingrained political biases and silly tantrums.

    Now, do you have any contribution to make? I've already offered more insight in my one post than you have in all of yours.
     
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    The continuation of neo liberalism I think could only be maintained by authoritarian rule as the Middle Class will be lost and the level of inequalities rise to a level which would be likely to incur revolution.

    I have not been pondering things so much for finance but rather for other political reasons which may or may not include finance. For instance Russia under Dugan, whose work Putin apparently likes, wants to get all of Europe aligned with Russia not the States and so has been promoting the far right in Europe - because they are anti the EU....but Russia also appears to be keen on the extreme right in the US - and Dugan's plan sees the UK and the US isolated in the world - maybe the desire with the US is just to **** it up....and yet, we find the extreme right seem to love Russia - not sure what is going on there.

    The other belief I have had is that any interference comes from the Christian Right in the US who want to build a Christian Totalitarian world and annihilate Muslims. That obviously is religious extremism with all the craziness which goes with that but they have spent decades since the 80's getting themselves into Government in the US, buying up seminaries so that they can teach their version of Christianity and getting themselves into your judiciary. They were not doing this for nothing and possibly are now at the final push. I have also noticed that other countries moving to the extreme right, Hungary, Poland, Brazil - even Russia appear to have a strong Christian orientation.

    The US also has progressive Christians who spend their time trying to bare witness and bring harmony to the world. I am not talking about them. Indeed one of them thinks they will be the first people they come after.
     
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    Alexas is dominating this thread with logic, language, and common sense.
     
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    Why are you pushing the fake narrative?

    Oh, and globalism is anti-American.
     
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    Holy mother projectionism! The left which officially has now embraced all of the far left need to take a xanax and take a good hard look at themselves
     

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