The Bible

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by usfan, Oct 2, 2018.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If he would have claimed Muslim, He would not have been elected
     
  2. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    As leader of the most powerful country in the world.
    I would much rather have John Gotti, than Jimmy carter
     
  3. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You've made it obvious you do not believe in the God of Creation......so you must believe we are just accidents. I find that quite odd.
    You said this
    We don't encourage our children to believe in "magic sky Daddy's".
    You mock those that believe we were created by God with a purpose. So it is obvious you believe human life is a "freak of nature". How could a "freak of nature" have a purpose? You tell me.
     
  4. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you are still telling me what I believe. How absurd.
    There are thousands of Gods.
     
  5. trevorw2539

    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2013
    Messages:
    8,344
    Likes Received:
    1,263
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's crap. I have paid into the Government pension scheme all my life. It's compulsory. I am not relying on any charity, just what is due to me after 50 years of work. I've always provided for my family who are all now adults. In fact I have 4 children, 5 grandchildren and 7 great grandchildren.

    As to Trump. He is the biggest con man ever. 11 business failures, owes billions of dollars around, a womaniser. He has wriggled out of financial problems and let others pick up the bill. And now he is leading the US into a future disaster. His tax reforms, though reforms were necessary, will come home to roost in about 10 years when this generation start requiring their OAP dues in the US. There won't be enough money to cover it. His reforms have benefitted his own companies to billions of dollars. Current business rising levels cannot be sustained. Global markets have been doing well but Trumps actions will put a damper on that. The DOW Jones is running at high levels. Trumps is currently spending more than Obama did, and Obama had to deal with the 2008 crisis.Obama's borrowing was necessary just to keep the US turning over.
     
  6. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2014
    Messages:
    7,785
    Likes Received:
    2,704
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm not a Biblical expert or academic, but I do know that Catholic Church leaders, newly appointed by the Emperor of Rome during the early to mid 300's, selected the books to be included in the Bible from a much larger selection of writings available to them at the time. Many of the books or writings considered but rejected were later put on a prohibited reading list, and copies burnt as heretical materials. One such forbidden group of writings were the now famous Gnostic Texts, which were reputed to have been written by those closest to Jesus--his disciples & Mary Magdalene. Considering that the leaders of the Catholic Church were working to some extent under the direct orders of the Emperor, and following his instructions on using the Church as a political tool to help unify the empire, it's not a forgone conclusion, or even a wise assumption that all the books in the Bible were divinely inspired or written by God thru divinely selected writers. The method & manner used to select the books included in the Bible weren't exclusively spiritual. Politics were involved.
     
    Greenleft likes this.
  7. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There are thousands of "g"ods only 1 GOD. You call mine a "magic sky daddy", but are too cowardly to identify yours so perhaps I could call "them" the same.
     
  8. trevorw2539

    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2013
    Messages:
    8,344
    Likes Received:
    1,263
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So the god of creation is happy that millions are killed by disease, by earthquakes, tsunamis and naturals disasters. How odd.
     
    Buri likes this.
  9. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Did you ever consider that more people are now working and paying taxes that support you government types??LOL
     
  10. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    true.
     
  11. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes you can, each of the Gods has the same evidence.
     
    Buri likes this.
  12. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2014
    Messages:
    7,785
    Likes Received:
    2,704
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What about the Gnostic Texts? They are named by the supposed authors--presumably the very disciples of Jesus themselves. Comments?
     
  13. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2008
    Messages:
    15,844
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I'm not cowardly, my God is Cthulu and he, as the bringer of all destruction is inherently superior to your judeo-christian god. My god brings about the end of all things while yours gripes and whines about idol worship.

    Your proclamation is weak and powerless in the face of he who's name cannot be spoken. I know all this to be true because it's written in a book by stone age peasants, revised by the Romans and is utterly perfect in every way. If you fail to be devoted to the Dark One, you're fate is sealed.

    Deny Cthulu at your own risk.
     
    Buri likes this.
  14. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2014
    Messages:
    7,785
    Likes Received:
    2,704
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Qu'ran was not written by Mohammed, who was illiterate. The Qu'ran was simply a collection of memories claimed by those who knew him personally or spent time around him during his life. Unfortunately, since those in charge of collecting this anthology, offered money to those volunteering their memories, many unsavory individuals participated who lied just to get the money. While Mohammed may have been a generous & good man, or even a prophet of God himself, the Qu'ran does not reflect Mohammed's personality or his teachings accurately. Beyond that, Muslims, like religious followers everywhere, ignore the spiritual aspects of their scriptures in favor of following the written clauses that support their own selfish attempts to enrich themselves or gain & maintain power over others. Religious followers are nearly universal in their focus on the Earthly aspects of their own scriptures. The spiritual aspects require much more energy, concentration and dedication that few are willing to give.
     
  15. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Qur'an does not reflect his teachings and deeds at all.
    Muhammed is not in the Qur'an, mentioned 4 times, and at least 3 could be someone else.
    But nothing about him at all.


    You have in the messenger a beautiful pattern of conduct to follow. (Qur'an)

    So where do you learn about him.
     
  16. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Cthulu is also known as :Anikdote". He is a finite human with feet of clay and corncobs between his ears
     
  17. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2008
    Messages:
    15,844
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    63
    No, he's clearly the only one true God. I have a book that says the same, this book is also ancient.

    At least Cthulu isn't so cowardly that he must condemn his followers for daring to worship other gods. We're all doomed, worship whatever lesser god you want.
     
    Buri likes this.
  18. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,295
    Likes Received:
    63,459
    Trophy Points:
    113
    nope, I believe there is no God to blame....

    you must believe God will not help those children? wont even save a child from a pedophile preacher in a house of God?
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2018
    Mr_Truth likes this.
  19. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My god is Shiva, the destroyer, who also shares the title of God with many others.
     
    Buri likes this.
  20. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,295
    Likes Received:
    63,459
    Trophy Points:
    113
    God never has enough money it seems
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2018
    Mr_Truth likes this.
  21. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Faith is the substance of things hope for and the evidence of things unseen. It takes faith to believe you are an unplanned accident, a freak of nature and have little or know value to your existence. That puts a low value on human life and gives you the moral freedom to abort your children.
    You are a freak of nature then with no value to anyone but yourself. Your moral code exists only between your ears. Those of us that know God value life....it is our mission to save those that would be victims of those that have no moral code.
     
  22. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Shiva aka yasureoktoo. A god unto itself.
     
  23. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2008
    Messages:
    15,844
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    63
    God, or a belief in any particular god is not necessary or sufficient to construct any sort of moral code.

    If the bible were a good tool for this I'd be out in the streets stoning adulterers.
     
  24. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,295
    Likes Received:
    63,459
    Trophy Points:
    113
    is your God a freak of nature or do you believe your God had a creator?

    those are the only choices of how everything came to be right? freak of nature or has a creator?
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2018
    Mr_Truth likes this.
  25. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why do you abort your children. That's just evil.
    Can't you just use a rubber if you don't want kids.
    Or don't have sex at all.
    Doesn't your religion speak out about that.
    I have no religious belief's, but would never even consider that.

    I guess you religious people are different.
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2018
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page