Democrats won the House, but Trump won the election

Walker lost to Tony Evers. That is reported from the Milwaukee Journal. It a close election, but an obvious omission in the article to claim Walker awas a “victor.”

Then, in Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer won the gubernatorial race over Bill Schuette with 52.8% or the vote. No Republican won in Michigan either.

Florida and Ohio are the exceptions, and Mass was poised to elect a Republican Governor if you followed the polling. But while Florida went full on red, Ohio is more purple since they also have a Democratic Senator.

Again, to call this a win for Trump is more sympathy than anything. Do we normally see a larger win for Democrats in midterms? Yes, but we haven’t had this type of division in the country since the 30s and 40s.

 

That means they will vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House. And do what they are told to do. ITs for the good of the Collective and the Democrat Socialist Destroy USA agenda.

 

I disagree. You seem to be implying that outcome should be pre-determind based on some fuzzy consequentialism - some set of politcal objectives which are deemed advantageous irrespective of values. The whole tenor of your though process seems to be based upon what is pragmatic for the incumbents specified agenda.

Its an interesting thought process. On the one hand you allude to the failure of society in its decision making process and then uphold the very same people as being important - or are you just saying that onlyh specified members of society should be decision makers...based on what? The thing that strikes me about the whole election system (not only in the US) is the percentage of people that are eligible to vote but choose not to! Perhaps those that you think are not intelligent enough to make a valid judgement have by default validated your argument so that the 40%ish that did vote are in fact intelligent enough thus dulling your argument

.... based on what?

I think you're trying imply an aloofness from the dilemmas of democracy; which is not a perfect system by any means, however, the very nature of the current system does not come with any predetermined conditions or qualifications other than those taking part are eligible to take part.

This I think is what gets me when you say....

...you have no idea who I am or what I am yet you make a judgement about what I think and what I value based on absolutely no knowledge at all......you have just crushed your own argument.

 

Yup it does seem that its gone as your pundits anticipated. I think its good for your Government.

 

There was a projected democrat sweep of governor races that failed to materialize. Congress gained average amount of seats in this midterm scenario and Republicans picked up more seats in the Senate than expected. The Senate is the big gun here that trump now has in his corner

 

I didn't hear you complain when the "Party of No" brought the congress to a standstill by blocking everything, and I do mean everything, Obama and Boehner tried to get through that immovable roadblock. Denial of that is simple hypocrisy and merely perpetrates the myth that Democrats are the obstructionists. Perhaps you forgot, the GOP still controls all three branches of government and couldn't pass a buggy with a Ferrari.

Texas was interesting. Beto racked up a huge amount of blue in rural areas and small towns. A first for Texas. Did the Dems learn anything from this? I'm betting they did.

 

Thanks mostly to gerrymandering.

 

The results last night evidence that Trump has come a long way from beating a weak Presidential candidate with a history of defeat, thus having his Administration questioned as just backlash, to being able to shore up broad, national support based on the record of his Administration. This is extremely good news for a 2020 Trump Campaign, and extremely bad news for Democrats with a dearth of viable candidates for President currently.

The results also repudiate a massive, world-historical level propaganda campaign by MSM, the LW sewer pipe, Complex edu, and the vast, Soros-funded LW internet shill network against the Trump Administration. No other media blitz against any politician anywhere at any time in history even approaches it. By all rights, and in light of the truly MASSIVE amounts of money Democrats spent on this campaign itself, the GOP should have been dealt a resounding defeat. Instead, the results were mediocre for the Complex Left.

Gains in the Senate are far more valuable for 2020 than gains in the House are for that election.

With a crop of new House members anxious to retain their seats in 2020, I would wager there will be no impeachment of Trump "just because" absent emergent real grounds for such over the next two years. Many of those Congressmen gained their seats promising moderation, and their constituents in many of those districts would be more than annoyed with a groundless impeachment proceeding. It would be a "campaign killer" issue in 2020 for many of those Congressmen. Moreover, such action would entrench, empower and infuriate Trump supporters, so I doubt it will emerge... outside some legitimate grounds for it that do not exist presently.

 

Since the news media claimed this election was a referendum on Trump, would it be fair to say it was a tie?

 

wow, the denial is thick.

Democrats won many more House seats than they lost.

Democrats won many more Governorships than they lost.

Democrats won. Trump lost.

 

Don't you guys grow weary of all the excuses?

I mean dang, grow a pair!

What's next, the stars weren't in the right quadrant of the sky?

The GOP lost the House, the Dems didn't get the Senate.

Oh well.

This never ever taking responsibility thing is laughable.

 

Speaking of taking responsibility, are you saying that gerrymandering isn't effective? If so, why does it remain when it is so obviously crooked? Why not take responsibility for screwing up the districting that way and making it sane again? "I mean dang, grow a pair!"

 

What are you smoking? As usual, a Trump fan ignores reality because it is too painful.

The Democrats made substantial gains at the gubernatorial level, as we expected. They won control of the governor’s offices from Republicans in Illinois, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico and Wisconsin. Connecticut is still too close to call, but Republican Bob Stefanowski is narrowly trailing Democrat Ned Lamont, and a Stefanowski comeback there is the GOP’s only remaining shot at picking up a state from a Democrat. The majority of Americans are likely to have a Democratic governor when the results are finalized. https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...overnors-races-but-it-could-have-been-bigger/

The House is much closer to the people than the Senate. Representatives have local districts. They are much like city mayors in that respect, and they have two-year terms. Senators run state wide and after six years in the Senate, incumbent Senators are very difficult to defeat.

For those reasons representatives are closer to the people, and the American people spoke. This election was obviously a referendum on Trump, according to Trump. The people spoke, and they wanted to rein in Trump. In addition, the people want a closer look at Trump's tax returns and why our President is a lackey for the Russian communist dictator. They want a closer look at the emoluments clause and how much money Trump is making off his Presidency from foreign governments. The people also want to take a closer look at Trump's attempts to obstruct justice. They want to know more about the Trump Tower meeting where Trump's son, Trump's son-in-law, and Trump's campaign manager met with four representatives of the Russian government at Trump's home and how much Trump knew about the meeting. The Republican Congress have been investigating these issues for nearly two years and they are keeping the results of their investigations from the people.

That is why the Republicans lost the House. The American people have had it with this guy, and his countless lies will no longer seem so important.

 

There's an old saying about poker. If you look around the table for the patsy and can't find him- It's YOU.
Everyone is telling you who want you to think they are, all the time. IF you have the capacity to see past the facade- everyone is telling you who they really are, all the time...
and have no idea that they are transparent. You are transparent, don't know it, but it takes very little effort to see it.

 

Maybe you are right, but he will win re-election in 2020. Don't cry too hard...

 

You didn't hear me complain, because I wasn't on this forum then. I most certainly was upset with that path of action. Congress has the duty of legislating, passing laws that improve the conditions for everybody, that serve the country. The obstruction is a tactic that usually does far more damage than good, no matter who is using it. Everytime something like this happens it justifies others to do the same thing- quit talking and negotiating, and behave like jackasses. I do not approve.

 

Since you’ve got your crystal ball out what’s the winning lotto numbers for the next drawing? Thanks!

 

Don't need one. Democrats are impotent with just the House, they cannot come up with a platform that can hold their coalition of miscreants and degenerates together. Antifa will still riot and no amount of investigations will bring down the economy, and so long as that doesn't fail and can be laid directly at Trump's feet, he will be re-elected. America let Obama stay and he had the worst recovery in modern history, Trump is awesome compared to that loser...

 

If this election was a referendum on Trump and that the midterms favored the Democratic party, it seems strange that the GOP gained seats in the Senate.

 

Obama’s economy increased every full year he was in office while lowering the deficit.
Can trump say that?

 

What? I don’t know how far up your ass you pulled that strawman but you should dig deeper.

 

Slowest recovery in modern history, because he was anti-business and anti-America. Obama failed America, but America was dumb enough to re-elect him, Trump will have no problems getting re-elected...

 

I don’t discount anyone. I think all citizens should be allowed to vote - including the ones the right are trying to suppress.

I also believe everyone’s vote should be equal. One citizen one voice.
Not one citizen 3 voices if you live in the right state.

 

No it's a clear victory for trump. Where he campaigned the republican won and democrats gained only the usual amount of seats in a midterm which was highly favorable to them winning many more seats than they did.

 

It's not entirely comparable. The nation is so bitterly divided now, so very partisan. The reds and blues have gotten much deeper everywhere, and we have the internet taking on a lot of significance now that it hever had before, just as it did in 2016. It's changed how people get information, how they think about political matters, how they perceive the two parties. All of this, and Trump himself is far different from any president this country has had before. This cannot be ignored and should not be understated. Trump has been waging war with Democrats, the media and the facts for quite a while now, doing a lot to build deeply entrenched support as well as opposition.

Uncle Sam is gravely ill and Trump is a major part of it.