Which is why its not an accurate comparison. No one is using cars to kill themselves. Which means cars are more lethal than guns unless you're trying to die. Most people aren't trying to die.
I'm not sure it is a perfect comparasion either.....but clearly the argument that cars are more dangerous than guns to be around is also wrong
Its easier to try to commit suicide by car, merely by their ease of access. Its far harder to succeed, though. Which is the relevent dynamic as far as 'which thing is more dangerous' goes.
There are countless examples of car accidents where based on the look of the car one would think there is no way the person survived only to find out the person in fact did survive. That's hardly ever the case when someone puts a gun in their mouth and pulls the trigger.
Even so, gun suicide attempts have about a 20% survival rate. Doesn't matter as far as gun control laws go, though.
Yup. I was just disagreeing with the point that killing oneself with a car should be easier. Nothing MORE, nothing LESS.
The majority of firearm-related deaths are suicides, and therefore not relevant to the discussion. If these individuals wish to end their own existence, why should they be denied such?
Except such cannot be done. A constitutionally recognized and protected right cannot, under any circumstances, be treated like a public safety issue. It simply does not work that way in the united states. Furthermore, the regulations pertaining to motor vehicles are not based on matters of public safety, but rather on the purpose of taxation. That is why in the united states, fines and court fees for even minor violations are so exceedingly high.
Firearms related deaths average around 34,000 per year. Let's forget for a moment that 55% of these are suicides and we'll also add the 74,000 nonfatal firearm injuries. That's a total of 108,000 firearms injuries and deaths per year. There are roughly 400,000,000 guns in the U.S. This means that only 0.00027% of guns are ever involved in an injury. If we really want to stop unnecessary deaths in this country we should address the 440,000 preventable, in-hospital deaths per year. Let me say that again. Every year over 400,000 people die unnecessarily, IN THE HOSPITAL, from medical errors. To put this in perspective, that's over 1200 PER DAY and it's entirely preventable.
You don't actually know that. How does me having had a background check to get a gun license stop me from using a gun to commit suicide if in the future I become depressed?
First you need to ask him specifically what he means by "gun control" in this instance. It's to nebulous a term to be accepted at face value.
Well there is some scientific research to support it. I'm not looking for a perfect law that works in every situation......just a better one
I know what he means as I've asked him in the past and he's answered. Thanks, but I have a handle on this.
I see you didn't answer my question. Please answer my question... How does me having had a background check to get a gun license stop me from using a gun to commit suicide if in the future I become depressed?
That is factually incorrect. Now you are being dishonest. You cited one law in one circumstance only and now say it must apply to all laws. That's just dishonest
I wasn't being dishonest. That's just your opinion. There are no gun laws that would prevent me from committing suicide in the future. You know this.
There are no laws that will prevent me from committing any crime in the future. Your thesis then is there should be no laws. It's just silly and dishonest
