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Gun death rate surpasses car death rate

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Galileo, Dec 10, 2018.

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  1. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    So the gun laws we have in effect now must be what the people want.

    Majority may rule but there should always be minority rights.
     
    Richard The Last, Dec 11, 2018
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    Its a lot harder to commit suicide by car.
     
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    Guns are far far far more dangerous to be around
     
    Vegas giants, Dec 11, 2018
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    It is what the people wants currently. No point in denying that. But that may change someday
     
    Vegas giants, Dec 11, 2018
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  5. Richard The Last

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    Interesting perspective on things is that most gun deaths are intentional most traffic deaths are accidental.
     
    Richard The Last, Dec 11, 2018
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    Actually it might be easier. More Americans own cars than guns.
     
    Richard The Last, Dec 11, 2018
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    Yes suicide by gun is very easy and very lethal
     
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    But where do minority rights enter into the picture? Suppose someday the (majority of) people want to outlaw Christianity or once again deny Gays to serve in the military.
     
    Richard The Last, Dec 11, 2018
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    Then the constitution comes into play. Any law can be challenged as unconstitutional. I always say pass the laws and let scotus decide
     
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    Interesting. I have owned guns since I was 12 and never had an accident. I have only owned a car since I was 17 and I have been in three accidents.
     
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    You have spent millions of man hours using a car more than you have using a gun
     
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    The Constitution? That would be the document that contains the Second Amendment. Right?
     
    Richard The Last, Dec 11, 2018
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    If we subtract suicides and gang shooting, it is likely that toaster ovens are more dangerous. I know, we could pass a law about shooting people....

    Gun banners are defeated by logic. Passing more laws that criminals will ignore, does nothing but infringe on the law abiding. Gun banners are not honest enough to talk about that.
     
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    Not sure that is correct.
     
    Richard The Last, Dec 11, 2018
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    Yep. Any gun law that is ruled unconstitutional should be repealed and is.

    Pass the laws and let scotus decide. I will accept their decision
     
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    All gun laws are unconstitutional.
     
    Richard The Last, Dec 11, 2018
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    I am positive it is
     
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    Not according to scotus. You are entitled to that opinion but it carries no legal weight
     
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    I started shooting many years before I started driving. I started hunting at 12 carrying a gun with me almost any time I was out of doors. I served more 30 years in the military during which time I often carried a gun and during which time I drove very little. I am retired now and drive very little but always have a gun with me; at home, out walking, and whenever I do drive. It might be very close on hours of each.
     
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    Fine. You are the one exception that proves the rule for the overwhelming majority of the rest of the population. Lol
     
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    At one time in this country alcohol was legal. Then it wasn't. Now it is. Interesting how things go.
     
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    Yep it's interesting. Times change
     
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    If not I should be.
     
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    Speaking of time... Time for me to sign off.

    Have a good one Vegas.

    Rich
     
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    Yeah me too. Good night rich
     
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