Obamacare ruled Unconstitutional

And not necessarily life threatening and treatable by a general practitioner on a non-emergency basis. You don't run to the emergency room to have emergency tubes put it. Back in the 50's as a kid I rode from Tennessee to the Gulf Coast with a raging ear ache after visiting my Aunt and Uncle for a week. From swimming in the Kentucky river. We got home late at night, momma gave me some aspirin and the next morning went to the GP where he punctured it and drain it.

Is there a high fever? Treat the fever and send home and to the Clinic in the morning.

Well then why doesn't everyone who goes to the hospital to through the emergency room first. Why doesn't EVERYONE who feels bad just go to the emergency room?

Again with Obamacare and those 30 million now have an insurance policy such ER visits are UP. Maybe we need to try something different.

 

Sure they it's called triage. Low grade fever, her's some advil if it;s not better in the morning go see your GP. Stomach ache, take some Pepto Bismo if not better in the morning go see your GP. Stuffy nose, give a does of Benadryl if not better in a few days go see your GP. Turn enough people away for non-emergency, non-life threatening and they stop coming there first.

 

It appears you had nothing of importance to remember. You know BS.

 

I had a lot of importance, it's just gets old going back and forth with you spouting the same ole bullshit.

 

Isn't it funny how when some LIBERAL Judge overthrows some law or clamps a restraining order to prevent something that Conservatives are trying to do, it's always reported as... "Today, a FEDERAL JUDGE (blah, blah, blah... fill in the blanks.) Rarely is there any mention of where that particular "Federal Judge" is located. You have to dig a bit for it....

BUT, when a Judge who happens to be in Texas throws out a LIBERAL program that was so obviously unconstitutional, the media consistently report it, 'big and bold' as ... "Today, A FEDERAL JUDGE IN TEXAS (blah, blah, blah... fill in the blanks.)

Just something that I noticed... and it's done with all the subtlety of having sh*t rubbed on your face!

Do you Libs even begin to understand WHY we on the Right mistrust you and your hyperliberal, stooge 'news' media as much as we do...?

 

We weren't going back forth, you just won't go forth because you had no forth to begin with. That's the BS.

 

You said capitalism doesn’t work in healthcare...doctors and nurse provide healthcare.

What regulations are you talking about? Please answer

 

OK, let's get back on track:

The healthcare challenge is how to distribute healthcare to America's citizens.

We fail at that by comparison to every other industrialized nation.

Another challenge is that Americans pay FAR more for healthcare than every one of these other countries.

These are systemic problems that free market capitalism has not solved - for very good reasons.

 

Each of your items here includes the ER doing work.

And, that is the problem.

 

Providers do work under freemarket capitalism for the most part.

The problem is with healthcare coverage. For profit corporations are not interested in covering all citizens - not even SLIGHTLY.

So, we create regulation that requires companies to sell you a policy, that prevents them from dumping you if you get sick, etc.

 

This is a prime example of that bullshit.

 

Repeating your DEBUNKED FALLACY does not alter that FACT that it has already been DEBUNKED!

There is NO additional "debt" because it is OFFSET by the EXISTING SPENDING on healthcare. This was PROVEN in the post that DEBUNKED your fallacy.

That you are incapable of grasping this OBVIOUS FACT is NOT my problem.

 

Thanks for making it abundantly clear that you don't give a crap about anyone less fortunate than yourself.

Furthermore you obviously don't have any problem with OBSCENE PROFITS extorted at the expense of the sick,

 

Great and well-informed opinion about national health care shared by an Aussie:

... There is absolutely NO REASON why the US could not adopt the Australian Medicare model which is self-financing and runs relatively-well. The idea that your illegals would "swamp" the system doesn't make sense if part of their pay is sequestered for health care (Aussies pay up to 2 % per annum on their income tax as a payment for national insurance...the tax base covers the rest) and they are paying sales tax and income tax...they still contribute to the tax base. This man says that we don't have people who are low paid in our health care system. That's CRAP. We are one nation which takes in a large proportion of refugees and yet we cope. Our health care system is CHEAPER to run than that in the US, has measurably better health outcomes (Australia outperforms the US in every health rating) and our life expectancy is higher than that of the US. In Australia you will NOT go broke if you need chemotherapy. You will not go broke buying script drugs (they are supplemented in cost) and many services are free. Now the other crap that is spouted by conservatives in the US is that Australians pay very high taxes. Now we do pay slightly higher taxes in some brackets but, by and large, our tax base is very similar. It boils down to this. In Australia all people believe that health care is a national priority...forget the word "entitlement". We believe that a healthy nation is a productive nation. We also believe that minimum wages should be at a level where a person can rent or take a loan to buy a house and also be able to pay off car loans...etc... An adult McDonalds worker here will make 16 dollars an hour. Now people in the US think this means prices would be way higher and companies can't make a profit. Crap! McDonalds makes great profits here and the prices are the same for some things and about fifty cents higher for other things. Big deal...a small price to pay to avoid poverty and desperation driving crime. In Australia working conditions and wages are controlled by a semi-judicial authority which listens to unions, business owners and workers and then sets what we call "award wages". This sets out pay rates and working conditions. Workers are still allowed to negotiate different conditions as long as those agreements do not, in net effect, leave them worse-off. This is the main difference in cultural thinking between the US and Australia. In Australia we believe in fairness, a "fair go" for all, and the right of people to live above poverty with dignity. In the US you believe in rugged individualism, a "sink or swim" mentality and the rights of big business. That's a product of how your nation grew from the wild west days. Good luck to you. I love the US and its people. Aussies love US folks. We consider you our cousins across the sea BUT we are different and we are more socially conscious. Don't believe the crap you hear about not being able to adopt some of our systems. If you really wanted to you could end working poverty and poor health care in the US. You just have to want to and drive that want to your politicians.​

 

We don't make national policy on the grounds of "a" child. Millions of kids get excellent and free health care in charity hospitals, or via medicaid, and even from "for profit" hospitals who admit them and then write off the fees.

 

Projecting your confusion is NOT my problem!

I was pointing out the PROFIT on a SINGLE PRODUCT as being exploitative and UNJUSTIFIABLE given that sick people are suffering and probably dying because they cannot afford it.

Your feeble attempt to excuse this GOUGING of people suffering from cancer is duly noted and it says volumes about putting PROFITS over and above We the People.

 

I think that's a hyperbolic oversimplification. Some believe our first priority should be taking care of ourselves and our families. It's a perfectly defensible position.

We can believe in family first w/o approving of "obscene profits." By the way, how much profit should health care providers be entitled to? Who decides this, and how?

 

Would you stop with the all caps? Make your points with words and grammar.

 

Which "bosses"? And what are you talking about? Roberts' career doesn't depend on anyone on or off Wall Street. He has a lifetime appointment and his salary is set by Congress. He can't take money from corporations.

 

The "best" being defined above as the most greedy and avaricious who are willing to ruthlessly EXPLOIT the sick in order to become obscenely wealthy and horde their ill gotten gains in offshore tax shelters?

Jesus would be so proud of them!

 

Given that you are making observations about how judges are being perceived have you noticed the TREND amongst your fellow rightwingers to immediately heap PRAISE on ANY judge who follows normal protocols requesting documents from the SC investigation.

This is accompanied by asinine "predictions" about how this will "expose" the FBI and/or the SC investigation for "prosecutorial misconduct" and "shut them down" or hyperbolic drivel to that effect.

Then when the judge looks at the actual DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE provided by the SC investigation and rules in accordance with said evidence against a member of the BLOTUS's criminal cartel the HOWLS of OUTRAGE and DENUNCIATIONS of the same judge are heard across the nation.

This must be causing severe cases of mental cognitive dissonance whiplash amongst your fellow rightwingers.

Speaking from my own perspective it is quite entertaining to watch these Golem-like antics given that they treat their beloved BLOTUS as their "precious" Lord of the Flies!

 

And who pays for that write off?

 

Wrong!

We make policy based upon INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS all the time because that is one of the FOUNDING PRINCIPLES of our nation.

 

Let's look at this from a different perspective.

If the government grants you a MONOPOLY on the market for a period of 25 years why doesn't the same government have a right to REGULATE the profit that you make?

Remember that when it comes to drugs the COSTS of both RESEARCH and PRODUCTION are 100% tax deductible.

Making OBSCENE profits at the expense of the sick violates the Constitution's provision regarding "providing for the General Welfare" of We the People. The government has the power and should ensure that those profits do not HARM We the People.