Mueller should submit his report soon, Trump is getting dangerous

Oh wait a minute here, over 20 people went to jail including the Clinton handpicked governor of AR, their handpicked Hillary bestest buddy Deputy US Attorney General and had he not committed suicide because he knew he was facing a term in prison the her other bestest buddy the Legal Counsel to the President of the United States. One of the four key witnesses died in prison awaiting testimony, one refused to testify and the other two were the Clinton's themselves. And then of course the hiding of evidence and obstruction of justice that was engaged in. And let's not forget Whitewater/Castle Grande/Madison began on a criminal referral from the RTC. To say there was nothing to Whitewater is folly.

 

True but Bill and Hilary themselves? Much like Trump the investigation uncovered wrongdoing by associates in its' course and they were prosecuted but little or nothing by their actual targets.

 

And I teach a PhD law class in Political Inquisitions at Yale. Your "credentials" don't impress me since you actually made the fundamental and grave error of suggesting that if Mueller had found anything, he would have announced it and we would know it. Just given that ridiculous assertion ("this is an investigation that has been running for 2 years without turning up anything" plus "everything else has been leaked from the investigation") I find it safe and appropriate to doubt and reject anything you may say.

Yup. I reject it all. You have no business training police if you actually so that. But I doubt that, too.

 

Tinfoil Hat, much?

Oh, and on topic, Mueller has all the time in the world. Patience.

 

As I said when key witnesses either go to prison or kill themselves so they don't have to testify, evidence is withheld and hidden from subpoenas and one of the targets has complete memory failure. Its not because they were not engaged in wrong doing.

 

What did I get wrong and be specific

And it seems the Mueller team is leaking out trying to lower people's expectations

WATCH: ABC News Reporter Has Bad News For Those Waiting For Mueller Bombshell
"What I am getting is that this is all building up to the Mueller report and raising expectations of a bombshell report," Karl said. "And there have been expectations that have been building, of course, for over a year on this. But people who are closest to what Mueller has been doing, interacting with the special counsel caution me that this report is almost certain to be anti-climactic."
https://www.dailywire.com/news/4211...rter-has-bad-news-those-waiting-ryan-saavedra

 

Do you think that if Mueller had found out Trump was indeed in Putin's back pocket, was being forced into his bidding and had committed illegal acts with Russian he would have been waiting this long leaving him in office to do whatever the dirty deeds are? He would have kept it under wraps and not informed the AG and Speaker of the House?

and read above

 

Do you realize you are not saying a thing. I said a great deal about your hero in posts 369 and 370. You didn't have a thing to say.

Why is that? I will answer that question for you. What I said was the the truth.

 

I couldn't care less about a "bombshell".

Just wait until the House Committees start holding hearings that bleed Trump (and his cronies) dry.

Get back to me when Trump is actually sworn in for a 2nd Term.

 

I said, At Helsinki Trump had a secret two hour meeting with Putin. Only interpreters were present. Trump did not trust his own SecState and NSA. Put a different way, Trump did not want Pompeo and Bolton to hear what was going on at that meeting.

Trump's advisors and American intelligence still do not know what was said at that meeting. However, we can be sure of this. Putin, his closest associates, and Russian intelligence know what was said at that meeting. Trump, for some reason, does not want anyone to know what was said. By contrast, Putin is perfectly happy to let his cohorts and intelligence service know what Trump said. Trump is entirely responsible for the weakness in the American position.

That is all you have to say? Do you realize how silly you look?

 

" interacting with the special counsel caution me that this report is almost certain to be anti-climactic.""

And I'm sure if it comes out anti-climatic and a nothing burger I'm sure you will careless about it.

And what was "Just wait until the Mueller report comes out" will not morph to "Just wait until the House committee report comes out". Why do you think the House investigators are better able to investigate this counter terrorism matter than Mueller Special Prosecutor's Office? What are they going to find out that the Mueller office did not? And believe me I know the Democrats want to totally lock up the government then next two years over investigations without merit or probable cause, is that what you really want?

 

So what, leaders speak in private with each other and have to have that trust they can speak their minds to each other in confidence.

They have no right to it's the Presidents prerogative. If world leaders can not believe they can talk to the President in strictest confidence it will HIGHLY limit the necessary communications between the leaders of our countries. You think all the conversations between FDR, Churchill and Stalin were all on the record, recorded for history discussions??

Putin like Trump decides who in his administration has a right to know. So what?

Why did Carter hold the Camp David talks between Israel and Egypt at Camp David? Why did the three leaders take those long walks in private?

 

Karl continued, "He has been writing his report in real time through these indictments and we have seen nothing from Mueller on the central question of, was there any coordination, collusion, with the Russians in the effort to meddle in the elections? Or was there even any knowledge on the part of the president or anybody in his campaign with what the Russians were doing, there’s been no indication of that."

"We have seen nothing from Mueller." That is what I have been saying for at least six months. Mueller has not submitted his report. For anyone, including Karl, to draw conclusions from an unseen report is both spurious and premature at best.

We know members of Trump's campaign were involved with the Russians. Trump's son, son-in-law, and campaign manager met with four Russian operatives in Trump's home, Trump Tower, to obtain dirt on the Clinton campaign. Goldstone's email to Junior made it clear the four were representatives of the Russian government. Michael Flynn made a deal with the Russians before Trump took office fulfilling expectations of a reward. Trump's campaign manager gave polling data to a Russian agent, a member of the GRU, military intelligence.

If we believe Trump, he is the most uninformed President in America's history. He keeps saying, "I didn't know about that" when dealing with the activities by members of his campaign and even his own personal lawyer. We also know, Trump is a chronic liar. However, in this case, it doesn't matter. Like the captain of a ship whose is responsible for everything that happens on the ship, Trump was the captain of his campaign ship. Whatever members of his campaign did in his name, that was Trump's responsibility. It doesn't matter if he knew or not. Trump was culpable for everything his campaign did.

 

Yes a correct statement, but now people with internal connections with the Mueller investigation are getting out the word, it will be anti-climatic. What's a good synonym for that? Nothing-burger?

No need to respond to the hubris which followed.

 

I agree.

I feel as if the OP is trying to twist themselves into this logical pretzel, because the Mueller report being damning has become something of a cultish fixation in this era of anti-Trump hysteria. The OP, as you pointed out, decided to cherry-pick the quotes from the ABC political analyst, instead of emphasizing those parts in the overall context (that the report is going to be anticlimactic) to artificially give hope that the Mueller report will be what they think it will be.

 

Really? I haven't heard that, and, as you can tell from my post that you did not challenge, I am staying on top of this. Please cite sources to confirm your statement.

I watched the video. It was cut short by the Daily Wire. Karl knows as much or more than I do, and you couldn't challenge anything I said. Karl was about to explain his views and he was cut off.

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I think we can end this discussion. Are you going to defend your source?

 

This quote starts at about 12 seconds into the aforementioned video: "People who are closest to what Mueller has been doing, of interacting with the Special Counsel, cautioned me that this report is almost certain to be anticlimactic."

It's right there in the video. No one is hiding the ball here; you're just walling off your mind to that piece of evidence because it does not confirm what you already believe. You're ignoring that salient point because it does not correspond well with your anti-Trump, preexisting belief about what the Mueller investigation is going to conclude. This is simply a case of confirmation bias on your part.

 

I think conclusions about Trump's crimes would be the last thing to wrap up since such investigations start at the bottom with the underlings, and move upward methodically.

 

ABC news
Mueller report to be 'almost certain to be anti-climactic,' sources tell ABC's Karl

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s long-awaited report may not be as shocking as it has been built up to be - at least according to ABC News White House correspondent Jonathan Karl.

Speaking to host George Stephanopoulos Sunday on “This Week,” Karl said that he’s been told by sources close to the investigation that the report into Russian interference in the 2016 election and any possible collusion between President Trump's campaign and Moscow is “almost certain to be anti-climactic.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mu...n-to-be-anti-climactic-sources-tell-abcs-karl

 

Again if a federal prosecutor had clear evidence the President was engaged in treason and serving at the demands of our advisaries you think he would be biding his time writng a report?

 

The importance of it demands that it be thorough and inescapably precise. That takes time.

 

Yours don't impress me, you deal with the hypothetical, I work in the REAL WORLD! You should get out of the academic bubble and visit some time. We know everything else which has been leaked but no actual proof against Trump. Look at McMartin, Kern County, look at Whitewater. This is just wish fulfilment on your part, you reject everything I say to try to protect your hypocrisy from facts you don't want to face.

"if you actually so that"? Hmmm, I'm beginning to doubt your credentials, how can you teach a PhD class when you can't actually use English correctly?

 

How's that any different to you?

 

An apt description of virtually all of your posts. Well done.

The truth: Trump will remain your President until at least January 2021, and there's nothing you can do about it.