Extremist-related killings in 2018 'overwhelmingly linked to right-wing' movements: ADL

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    At least 50 people were killed at the hands of domestic extremists in 2018, an increase of 35 percent from the previous year, a new report from the Anti-Defamation League has found.

    That total makes 2018 the fourth deadliest year for extremist killings since 1970, and 2018 also saw the highest percentage of right-wing extremist-related killings since 2012, according to the ADL.

    The report from the ADL, a Jewish organization focused on fighting anti-Semitism, claims that in 2018, "every single extremist killing — from Pittsburgh to Parkland — had a link to right-wing extremism." The group details the alleged ties -- ranging from white supremacist and racist or misogynistic or Nazi ties -- of some suspects that ABC News had not previously reported on or confirmed.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/extremist...ingly-linked-wing-movements/story?id=60568464


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    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/anti-defamation-league/

    Another demonstrable fact that right-wing extremism is far more dangerous than left-wing extremism in the U.S. and is an actual threat to the safety of American citizens.
     
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    Watch out for Mitch McConnell.

    BTW, Nazis are socialists and not “right wing”.
     
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    Watch out for revisionists abusing history.
     
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    How so?
     
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    They’re socialists ... that’s left on the political dial.

    They’re very, very far from the American right wing.
     
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    Why do you say that the Nazis were socialist/left wing?

    Edit: I'm asking how, specifically, you arrived to that conclusion.
     
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    Uh-oh.

    Now the RWFS will label the ADL a hate group.

    When the truth gets told on RWE, many on the right are not only ready to shove their own heads into the sand, but force every other head they can under it as well.
     
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    Welcome to the forum. :)

    What that poster is saying is that despite the overwhelming fact that RW extremists commit the VAST majority of domestic terror...

    ...many on the right buy into the ludicrous fantasy that the left does.

    To far too many RWers, up is down, black is white and inside is out.

    When the ACTUAL facts displease them, many of them simply create new & special *facts* to replace the actual facts.

    It's quite the spectacle if you haven't seen it before.

    :salute: :popcorn: :salute:
     
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    50? Up from 37?
    Across the entire country? For an entire year?
    Thank you for illustrating the desperation of the left.
     
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    Of the NSDAP's 25 points, the average American liberal will agree, at least conceptually, with 14 or more.
     
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    Desperation? Hardly. It's further evidence that in regard to instances of political extremism, the right-wing accounts for the vast majority of political violence based on their ideology.
     
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    They're also nationalists . . . that's on the right of the political dial. Neo-Nazis and other white nationalists also seem to self-identify far more with the right than with the left. I don't think either side should be judged by their extremists, and all sides have their violent loonies, but the only justification for putting Nazis on the left is that they used the word "socialist" in their party name; they were very much, however, an anti-left movement and hated the leftist movement in Germany.
     
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    Yes.
    If 50 deaths, supposedly committed by "right wing extremists" is the sum total of your illustration of the danger of said "right wing extremism", you are QUITE desperate.
     
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    How many individuals died in the U.S. as a result of Islamic extremism in 2018? How about undocumented immigrants?
     
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    Irrelevant to the point - the "danger" you want to illustrate here is statistically non-existent.
    But, since you're SO desperate to make a point about "right wing extremism", you make a stink about it.

    Perspective: in the time frame discussed there, you're >4x more likely to die from intentional self-immolation than be killed by a right-wing extremist.
     
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    "Demonstrable fact?" This whole story is a long way from being clearly apparent; and no way can it be logically proved unless you give us a at least one useable link, or at least give us your definition of what constitutes killings by right-wing extremists.
     
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    The primary point of the platform is the race-based state. Everything that the platform has to say about what it wants to do for its "citizens" is centered on the concept that such citizenship is limited to the ethnostate. I've encountered a few dozen right-wingers, including a handful on PF, who agree with the concept of a white ethnostate. I've never encountered any liberals who support it, but I guess it is theoretically possible.
     
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    True... but you'll have a hard time finding a socialist who disagrees with the 14 points I mentioned.
     
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    They gained power by promising free ****
     
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    More than that..
    They promised free stuff, and they promised to make "other people" pay for it.
     
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    Here’s perspective for you: Seeing as how Islamic extremist murders committed in the U.S. in 2018 is far lower than murders committed by non-Islamic right wing extremists, and your claim is that the murders committed by non-Islamic right wing extremists is statistically non-existent, would you agree that the threat posed by Islamic extremists is also statistically non-existent?
     
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    They favored a strong central government running the nation. That is 180 degrees from American conservatism and American libertarianism.
     
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    It is certainly anti-libertarian, but not necessarily anti-conservative. The right likes to pretend to be libertarian when it is convenient to do so, but they believe in a strong central government in several respects. The whole right = less government, left = more government dichotomy is complete nonsense. If that were the case, then conservatives would favor open borders and would welcome anarchists, even anarcho-communists, with open arms.
     
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    They favored a large federal government that intervened in the economy and in people's lives. That's what socialism does: it limits freedom and attempts to equalize income.

    Nazism is far from the positions of "right wing extremists" like Jefferson, Adams, Lincoln, and Reagan.
     

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