Supreme Court blocks Louisiana abortion law on 5-to-4 vote

It may be but demanding/forcing that a woman go through the following so someone else can have a kid is barbaric:

Here's a dose of reality...
Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

• exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
• altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
• nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
• heartburn and indigestion
• constipation
• weight gain
• dizziness and light-headedness
• bloating, swelling, fluid retention
• hemmorhoids
• abdominal cramps
• yeast infections
• congested, bloody nose
• acne and mild skin disorders
• skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
• mild to severe backache and strain
• increased headaches
• difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
• increased urination and incontinence
• bleeding gums
• pica
• breast pain and discharge
• swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
  (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
• extreme pain on delivery
• hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
• continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)

Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

• stretch marks (worse in younger women)
• loose skin
• permanent weight gain or redistribution
• abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
• pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
• changes to breasts
• increased foot size
• varicose veins
• scarring from episiotomy or c-section
• other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
• increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
• loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
• higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
• newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)

Occasional complications and side effects:

• complications of episiotomy
• spousal/partner abuse
• hyperemesis gravidarum
• temporary and permanent injury to back
• severe scarring requiring later surgery
  (especially after additional pregnancies)
• dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
• pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
• eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
• gestational diabetes
• placenta previa
• anemia (which can be life-threatening)
• thrombocytopenic purpura
• severe cramping
• embolism (blood clots)
• medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
• diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
• mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
• serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
• hormonal imbalance
• ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
• broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
• hemorrhage and
• numerous other complications of delivery
• refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
• aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
• severe post-partum depression and psychosis
• research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
• research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
• research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease

Less common (but serious) complications:

• peripartum cardiomyopathy
• cardiopulmonary arrest
• magnesium toxicity
• severe hypoxemia/acidosis
• massive embolism
• increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
• molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
  (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
• malignant arrhythmia
• circulatory collapse
• placental abruption
• obstetric fistula

More permanent side effects:

• future infertility
• permanent disability
• death.

 

No, it's a dead fetus and you could NOT refute one word of my post


Contrary to what you may think or want , women have rights...

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
So?

Do you think that because "adoption is a wonderful thing" that women should lose the right to their own bodies, a right YOU have????

That didn't address nor answer the questions in that post of mine you quoted

 

No one's right is absolute.

 

Maybe not but you better have a damn good reason to take away a person's right to their own body.....and so far pregnancy is NOT a good reason....

Unless you view pregnancy as a crime? Do you?


Do you believe that someone can FORCE you to give them a kidney or your heart or a blood transfusion??? Really????

 

Or force the donation of organs of a person or their dying relatives against their will. Can you imagine what right wing loonies would do if an organ harvester showed up at their deathbed with a court order.

 

YUP! They would be having a real hissy fit if THEY were told their body was no longer theirs and it was needed by someone else to sustain their life...

 

Blood transfusion yes. It costs you no permanent harm.

 

Your question was a non-sequitur. Are you saying adoption is NOT a wonderful thing?

 

Here's a does of reality

Normal, always and expectable permanent effect of abortion...............a dead baby.

 

No it's a dead baby. Headache or dead baby?

 

Being pregnant does not require the mother to give the child her heart or blood. Really????

Benefits of pregnancy

Longer life
During pregnancy, a woman and her baby exchange a small number of cells via the placenta, and some of those fetal cells remain in her body, a phenomenon called microchimerism. (Microchimerism can also result from blood transfusions and transplants, and it can occur between fraternal twins.)

Reduced breast cancer risk
Your risk of developing this disease is related to your exposure to hormones produced by ovaries (endogenous estrogen and progesterone). The longer the exposure, the higher the risk of developing breast cancer.

Reduced risk of gynecological cancers
Pregnancy can also lessen your risk of ovarian and endometrial (uterine) cancer.

Less painful periods
Some women who have suffered through heavy or painful periods before getting pregnant can actually see an about-face post-childbirth—especially those who have endometriosis.

Overall improved health
“Pregnancy can have a cascade effect on women,” says Toronto midwife Shâdé Chatrath, who educates moms-to-be on improving their well-being by eating right, exercising and having regular PAP tests after giving birth.

I can copy and paste list too

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Maybe not but you better have a damn good reason to take away a person's right to their own body.....and so far pregnancy is NOT a good reason....

Do you believe that someone can FORCE you to give them a kidney or your heart or a blood transfusion??? Really????

I don't think you're getting it.

Do you think that it is OK for someone to FORCE another person to sustain their life by giving them a heart or a FORCED blood transfusion or an eyeball ??

IF abortion is banned then that is FORCING women to use their bodies to sustain the life of another.
YOU do NOT have to do that.

NO ONE DOES.

WHY do you think women should be forced to ???

You better have a damn good reason to take away a person's right to their own body.....and so far pregnancy is NOT a good reason....

 

THIS IS WHAT I SAID:FoxHastings said: ↑
So?

Do you think that because "adoption is a wonderful thing" that women should lose the right to their own bodies, a right YOU have???? """""


...and YOU couldn't answer

 

That wasn't what I posted.....why do you have a need to twist what others post?

No good answer?

The POINT is that NO one should have to use their body to sustain the life of another and that includes pregnant women who DO sustain the life of the fetus.


Whether pregnancy has good effects or bad effects it is STILL THE PREGNANT WOMAN'S RIGHT TO DECIDE WHICH IS BEST FOR HER, WHAT SHE WILL ACCEPT >>>OR NOT.

 

Why not? Isn't pregnancy kind of a big deal?

And forcing someone to undergo temporary inconvenience with little risk of permanent bodily damage like a blood transfusion, a living liver transplant (partial livers grow back in a healthy donor), bone marrow transplants or a pregnancy.

No, I have no moral problems forcing that. Don't know why you do.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
You better have a damn good reason to take away a person's right to their own body.....and so far pregnancy is NOT a good reason....

You think that becoming pregnant is a crime and women should lose the right to their own bodies if they're pregnant ??!!!WTF!!!

Have you told your mother and other beloved women how little you value what they went through?

ONLY someone who will never be pregnant can call the effects of pregnancy "temporary inconvenience".

However "little" the risk is, it's THERE.

So you see nothing wrong with YOU being hauled off to the hospital where your heart would be forcibly removed to sustain the life of another.??
Well, GEE, that's very generous of you but most people prefer a CHOICE.



You can deny science but you can't change it :
Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

• exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
• altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
• nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
• heartburn and indigestion
• constipation
• weight gain
• dizziness and light-headedness
• bloating, swelling, fluid retention
• hemmorhoids
• abdominal cramps
• yeast infections
• congested, bloody nose
• acne and mild skin disorders
• skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
• mild to severe backache and strain
• increased headaches
• difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
• increased urination and incontinence
• bleeding gums
• pica
• breast pain and discharge
• swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
  (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
• extreme pain on delivery
• hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
• continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)

Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

• stretch marks (worse in younger women)
• loose skin
• permanent weight gain or redistribution
• abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
• pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
• changes to breasts
• increased foot size
• varicose veins
• scarring from episiotomy or c-section
• other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
• increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
• loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
• higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
• newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)

Occasional complications and side effects:

• complications of episiotomy
• spousal/partner abuse
• hyperemesis gravidarum
• temporary and permanent injury to back
• severe scarring requiring later surgery
  (especially after additional pregnancies)
• dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
• pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
• eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
• gestational diabetes
• placenta previa
• anemia (which can be life-threatening)
• thrombocytopenic purpura
• severe cramping
• embolism (blood clots)
• medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
• diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
• mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
• serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
• hormonal imbalance
• ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
• broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
• hemorrhage and
• numerous other complications of delivery
• refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
• aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
• severe post-partum depression and psychosis
• research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
• research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
• research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease

Less common (but serious) complications:

• peripartum cardiomyopathy
• cardiopulmonary arrest
• magnesium toxicity
• severe hypoxemia/acidosis
• massive embolism
• increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
• molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
  (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
• malignant arrhythmia
• circulatory collapse
• placental abruption
• obstetric fistula

More permanent side effects:

• future infertility
• permanent disability
• death.

YOU call that a "temporary inconvenience" ? A "little " risk?

 

Do you see "forced" anywhere in the definition of genocide?

GENOCIDE:

English Language Learners Definition of genocide
: the deliberate killing of people who belong to a particular racial, political, or cultural group
See the full definition for genocide in the English Language Learners Dictionary
genocide noun
geno·cide | \ ˈjen-ə-ˌsīd \

Medical Definition of genocide
: the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group
— compare HOMICIDE
Other Words from genocide
genocidal \ ˌjen-ə-ˈsīd-ᵊl \ adjective
genocide noun
geno·cide | \ ˈje-nə-ˌsīd \

Legal Definition of genocide
: acts committed with intent to partially or wholly destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group
also : the crime of committing such an act
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/genocide

 

IOW, you agree with the medical dictionary that pregnancy is not a disease. Right?

disease
Also found in: Dictionary, Thesaurus, Legal, Financial, Acronyms, Idioms, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia.
Related to disease: heart disease, communicable disease
disease [dĭ-zēz´]
a definite pathological process having a characteristic set of signs and symptoms. It may affect the whole body or any of its parts, and its etiology, pathology, and prognosis may be known or unknown. For specific diseases, see under the specific name, as addison's disease. See also illness, mal, sickness, and syndrome.
Miller-Keane Encyclopedia and Dictionary of Medicine, Nursing, and Allied Health, Seventh Edition. © 2003 by Saunders, an imprint of Elsevier, Inc. All rights reserved.
dis·ease (di-zēz'),

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/disease

 

You posted

as some equivalency argument. That's false a pregnancy does not require the mother to give the baby her heart or her blood or any other part of her body.

 

You clearly said that you support this

 

And if not....get your money back

 

And you claim you support this

 

Can you kill someone without FORCING them to die? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

Ah, the predictable FoxHastings, famous for deliberately misrepresenting what people have said in this forum

You think that becoming pregnant is a crime

I never said anything remotely of the sort.

Let's see, my mother, three sisters, wife, have all been pregnant and had babies before.
And every last one of them is (or was in my mothers case as she died at the age of 75 some years ago) much more vehemently anti abortion rights than I am.