Supreme Court blocks Louisiana abortion law on 5-to-4 vote

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  1. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    You better have a damn good reason to take away a person's right to their own body.....and so far pregnancy is NOT a good reason....

    You think that becoming pregnant is a crime and women should lose the right to their own bodies if they're pregnant ??!!!WTF!!!

    Have you told your mother and other beloved women how little you value what they went through?


    Ah, the predictable Dayton3, famous for not being able to understand posts.

    WHERE did I misrepresent what you posted? I asked you questions ( which you couldn't answer :) )



    FoxHastings : ""You think that becoming pregnant is a crime""

    If you think women should be punished for it by being forced to gestate ( have the right to their own bodies taken away)you do.




    WTF does that have to do with you demeaning, making light of, dismissing, what they suffered and went through to deliver babies ?????!!????!!!
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    NOTHING!
     
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    So the fetus can be taken out of the woman at any stage , set on a shelf, kept warm, and it will grow on it's own??
    Really! You REALLY believe that!!!?? HILARIOUS!!!


    Gee, just for starters , do you have any idea what an "umbilical cord " is?? Ever heard of it???
     
  3. Dayton3

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    You brought it up by suggesting what the women in my family might think. I told you.

    And I DO NOT think pregnancy is a crime. I don't think requiring a woman to take reasonable care to bring a pregnancy to term IF her own health is not significantly endangered is a form of punishment.
     
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    Maybe YOU don't but YOU don't determine other's lives....the ONLY opinion that counts is the woman who is pregnant...


    ALL pregnancies carry the risk of significant health dangers including death
     
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    No they don't. IIRC the "significant health dangers" to women with access to reliable prenatal medical care and are not already in a high risk pregnancy group are something like 5% at most.

    And as a citizen and a voter, I have every right to play a role in how people in my country conduct their private lives.

    We will just have to agree to disagree.
     
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    So are you willing to pay for a woman's medical bills if you force her to carry to delivery? No? Didn't think so.
    So are you willing to kill yourself if you force a women to carry to delivery and she dies of complications? No? Didn't think so.

    You have absolutely ZERO skin in the game and will NEVER have to face ANY of the complications that a pregnant woman faces - ever. You will never have to deal with the uncertainty or the fear. You will never have to carry your rapists baby for nine months. But you feel YOU have the right to force her to carry to term. WTF. Just plain old WTF.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Maybe YOU don't but YOU don't determine other's lives....the ONLY opinion that counts is the woman who is pregnant...


    ALL pregnancies carry the risk of significant health dangers including death


    Said with all the confidence and error of someone who was never, and will never be, pregnant.





    I did NOT say HIGH risk....you sure have trouble with my posts even though they are in clear English...

    :) NO you don't...where did you get that idea and can you please film yourself as you go about your day so I can judge you and report you if you do something I don't approve of ??? :)


    No, I do not have to agree to disagree....taking away women's right to their own bodies because they are pregnant is JUST PLAIN WRONG...
     
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    Daniel Light said:
    So are you willing to pay for a woman's medical bills if you force her to carry to delivery? """"""


    Is this your answer from post 507?
    ""Yes of course.""


    So you will pay for the thousands of women who are forced to gestate and deliver? Really?


    BTW, here's Daniel Lights ENTIRE post:

    ""So are you willing to pay for a woman's medical bills if you force her to carry to delivery? No? Didn't think so.
    So are you willing to kill yourself if you force a women to carry to delivery and she dies of complications? No? Didn't think so.

    You have absolutely ZERO skin in the game and will NEVER have to face ANY of the complications that a pregnant woman faces - ever. You will never have to deal with the uncertainty or the fear. You will never have to carry your rapists baby for nine months. But you feel YOU have the right to force her to carry to term. WTF. Just plain old WTF"""""
     
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    I've always advocated paying for women who want to have an abortion to carry the child to term.

    And a person need not risk their lives to have "skin in the game". Most pregnancies do not pose a significant risk to the life and health of the mother.
     
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    :roflol: Oh! So NOW it's "advocating" paying for women to deliver!

    Here's what it was BEFORE you changed it:
    Daniel Light said:
    So are you willing to pay for a woman's medical bills if you force her to carry to delivery? """"""


    Is this your answer from post 507?
    ""Yes of course.""

    That "yes, of course" means YOU are willing to PAY FOR IT, NOT "advocate" to pay for it...:)


    AND, do you intend to pay the woman for the diapers, food, housing, toys, education, doctor visits, schooling, electric, heating, clothing, etc...for that child??




    ALL pregnancies carry risks....ALL.....it is not known how "significant" the risk is in each individual pregnancy is UNTIL the woman is pregnant.


    BTW, here's Daniel Lights ENTIRE post that YOU choose to ignore:

    ""So are you willing to pay for a woman's medical bills if you force her to carry to delivery? No? Didn't think so.
    So are you willing to kill yourself if you force a women to carry to delivery and she dies of complications? No? Didn't think so.

    You have absolutely ZERO skin in the game and will NEVER have to face ANY of the complications that a pregnant woman faces - ever. You will never have to deal with the uncertainty or the fear. You will never have to carry your rapists baby for nine months. But you feel YOU have the right to force her to carry to term. WTF. Just plain old WTF"""""
     
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    Not if the Governor of Virginia is the doctor, he might kill it.

    I said
    That's false, a pregnancy does not require the mother to give the baby her heart or her blood or any other part of her body.
    Do you have any idea the pupose of the umbilical cord and how it functions with the placenta? It's purpose is to keep the baby SEPARATE from the mother so her blood does not mix with the baby's or enter the baby. The baby is a totally separate human being.
     
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    Why would I or any abortion opponent have to do that? The adoptive parents normally pay for those things.

    And no I can't personally pay for every woman who wants an elective abortion to carry their child to term, but there are millions of people who believe as I do and the collective financial means to do this does exist in the U.S.
     
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    OH! ANOTHER CHANGE to the narrative!! NOW it's the "adoptive parents who pay" and not YOU!

    :) :) :)


    But you said you would.


    Then why are there poor women with children?

    Why are there people who want to cut funding to entities that aid poor children like Welfare, WIC,SNAP,etc. ?
     
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    Then it should be able to be taken out of the woman and left to grow on it's own...…

    You contend it is a separate human being. Well, then it has no right to use another humans body to sustain it's life.


    Seems as if you want the fetus to have more rights than anyone else!!!
     
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    Eventually that technology will exist (artificial womb tech). At that point elective abortions will certainly be ended initially through social pressure and later when the law catches up by legal means. And from then on, people will look back on a society that endorsed "abortion rights" with the same scorn they now look back on a society that endorsed slavery.
     
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    You are arguing in bad faith. Harping about semantics when we both know full well you understood what I meant.
     
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    If the Christian Taliban of the GOP had its way, anyone who had an abortion, or participated in one, would be charged with 1st degree murder, or accessory to murder. Some would even be executed under the death penalty.
     
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    Why should that be done?

    It's not a contention. Does a mother have a duty to sustain the life of her baby?

    Just the basic right to life.
     
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    And you do? Like the life of the baby.
     
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    Most conservatives feel that if a woman is willing to go to this length to abort a baby ( murder in their eyes ) then she deserves whatever happens to her ( spectic death and so forth ). Its obviously Gods will to them.
     
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    Except for your stupid theory to be true, someone would have to be forcing women of color to have those abortions. Obviously no one is doing so. So, because of this, your theory is utterly unfounded and quite stupid.


    Women of color have more abortions due to economic reasons that are far to complicated to go into here. But nice try.
     
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    Great. Now when is Trump ACTUALLY going to do this?

    Oh wait. Never. Because he lied with no intention of ever doing so, and Trump voters were to stupid to see he was lying.
     
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    Abortion is certainly forceful killing. But genocide, by definition does not require killing. You should actually read those definitions.

    Medical Definition of genocide
    : the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group
    — compare HOMICIDE
    Other Words from genocide
    genocidal \ ˌjen-ə-ˈsīd-ᵊl \ adjective
    genocide noun
    geno·cide | \ ˈje-nə-ˌsīd \

    Legal Definition of genocide
    : acts committed with intent to partially or wholly destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group
    also : the crime of committing such an act
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/genocide
     
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    Except people rarely adopt black babies.
     

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