I'm a progressive I'm also pro life, abortion rights are doomed, give up the fight.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    No, that was me that said that, not @Sackeshi!
     
  2. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Oh I see. It probably would've been clearer if you had stated to him that you didn't say it.
     
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    :roflol: So NOT the parents who conceived the kid? Surely you can't be serious! Government is to blame for pregnancy now! :roflol: You CLEARLY don't believe in personal responsibility!

    Can money influence how a child is reared? If not, then why the need for child support payments? And why would I be "in for a big shock?"
     
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  4. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Then what do you think was the need for NY's new law? What did it change?
    When the bill was passed that day, do you actually think that the Senate erupted in mad celebration for no reason whatsoever? https://twitter.com/i/status/1087830306823041024

    Well which law are you referring to? I'm referring to the new one from this year.
     
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  5. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Wait, haven't you said numerous times that sex is a natural part of life and humans will always have sex?

    So if a woman decides to have a kid even if she doesn't think that she can provide enough for the kid on her own, do you think that this is wise?

    Well if they weren't legally guaranteed child support payments, don't you think that might make them a little bit less inclined to have the kid and be a single mother?
     
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    I am a moderate, and I support the right to an abortion prior to the embryo having a heart beat. A woman should be able to make a decision within the first 2 months.
     
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    Reasonable.
     
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    First, the president doesn't read. Second, what's the point of state controlled abortion? Women of means can always fly to a liberal state. In fact I can see money making abortion/spas in liberal states. In conservative states women with no means would also have their access to birth control restricted (no Planned Parenthoods) so they would become pregnant more often, have a child they don't want, go into debt to get to a liberal state or have a back alley abortion.
    You accept the fact of abortion but make it more terrible and it does nothing to solve the problem.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    I world strike down abortion as a whole I'm just saying state issue to get benched
     
  10. FoxHastings

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    That's a very weak excuse.....if you aren't committing a crime and you walk into a police station seeking information they won't shoot you.

    Are you afraid of the answers?

    Are you afraid they WILL mark you down as one to watch? ( more than likely)

    Are you afraid of the truth?

    If, as YOU claim , you wouldn't be doing anything illegal , why can't you face the truth and ask the police(that's free) or an attorney( not free) ?


    That DOES take COURAGE and BACKBONE....
     
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    :applause::roflol::cheerleader::roflol::applause:



    Good points....and here's another:

    American citizens should have their rights no matter what state they are in ...this IS the UNITED States...ONE country.
     
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    Ya, so? That hasn't got a thing to do with :
    FoxHastings said:
    If he didn't want a child he shouldn't have had sex. Because once he had sex it was out of his hands..."""""



    That is in response to my"The VERY SAME QUESTION I HAVE BEEN ASKING ANTI-CHOICERS FOR YEARS!!!!

    ASK THEM
    !!!!"""

    ...so I don't know it they really are related but...no, I do not think it wise to have a kid you can't afford.


    But SO WHAT! WTF does that have to do with her RIGHT to decide if she should have an abortion or not....COULD YOU FINALLY ANSWER A QUESTION FOR A CHANGE???? Are you capable of that?
    Ya know, PROVE you know something ???




    I don't think a lot of things are wise but unlike you and other Anti-Choicers I KNOW it is NONE of my business....



    :) So those "precious lives" , CHILDREN, should NOT be supported so women can be controlled and punished....how VERY Anti-Choice...

    and cruel to poor children """OH THOSE BAAAAAABIES HOW WE LOVE THEM UNTILL THEY'RE BORN!!!!!!....."""
     
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    Actually we are a federation. We are 50 separate independent entities, that each give up a small amount of Independence to be United. We are bottom up not top down.

    Want abortion rights amend the Constitution.
     
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    No need.

    Roe v Wade


    Perhaps you heard of it. Lol
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    This why I'm going to send that letter to the white house in hopes they nominate me for federal judgeship. Don't worry I'll also put guns back to the states. I'll be a states rights judge.
     
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    We don't need an amendment
    Women already have the right to their own bodies...just like every other American citizen....even if you find that repulsive or "bad"...it's a fact :)


    And you didn't refute one word of the post of mine you quoted :
    FoxHastings said:
    Good points....and here's another:

    American citizens should have their rights no matter what state they are in ...this IS the UNITED States...ONE country.
     
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    You go get em ranger. Lol
     
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    Then post the direct quotes from the law that you are defending.

    I am not going to debate what you "think" about this law says or does..
     
  19. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    You sound like you had 100 abortions in your life the way you stick up dof something you don't need anymore
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Uh, ya, if abortion is banned the government is responsible for all those kids nobody wants..


    Yes, if women are FORCED to produce like cattle then the entity that forced them should have the responsibility for them.


    If the government is responsible for banning abortion then it should be responsible for the results.


    Don't you think we should have a responsible government??

    Why would a woman want to care for a person she didn't want?

    You clearly don't care what happens to these children..



    Most definitely.



    It's writing a check.....if you think THAT'S involvement in child rearing you are wrong and in for a big shock if you ever have kids.

    You would be in for a big shock if you think writing a check is the only thing involved in raising children..
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    We don't need an amendment
    Women already have the right to their own bodies...just like every other American citizen....even if you find that repulsive or "bad"...it's a fact :)


    And you didn't refute one word of the post of mine you quoted :
    FoxHastings said:
    Good points....and here's another:

    American citizens should have their rights no matter what state they are in ...this IS the UNITED States...ONE country.




    Completely illogical statement....but so cute and pouty...;) ( When the silly insults come out ya know the opponent has no facts to use :) )


    DUH, people ALWAYS need the right to their own bodies....unless you wish some states can go back to selling people for slaves? Is that what you want? It's the SAME thing...

    People ALWAYS need the right to their own bodies despite those on the right who want to destroy that right so they can own slaves..


    People ALWAYS need the right to their own bodies....and obviously good people have to CONTINUALLY defend that right from the bad people who want to take it away..



    Hey , have ya asked the police about how legal your plan is to ENSLAVE a woman yet??
     
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    Ya sure....somebody wants a judgeship they just write for one....(OMGAWD) Gee, you know so much about this country ! ;):roflol:..and how it's run.



    Well, if ya don't include a HUGE check made out to Donald and Ivanka Trump your letter will hit the trash so fast it might catch on fire.
     
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    The people running this site seems not to wish to have any questions raised concerning the possibility of non Americans falsely postings as Americans but somedays and some posts you truly need to wonder.
     
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    We have a corrupt administration and senate that will put anyone on the bench for political or personal gain, If I can exploit that for my political and personal gain why would I not? I can just say some BS about how I think the president should have immunity during his term and get a nomination.

    I'm American and hate the current admin but it does not stop the fact that I would use it to further my agenda
     
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    LOL an agenda of turning half of our population into reproductive slaves for the most part to male bureaucracies.
     
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