I'm a progressive I'm also pro life, abortion rights are doomed, give up the fight.

But it's not legal to prevent her from having an abortion.

And where does it say YOU have the right to provide "monitoring??

Ya, "having faith" works so well....

What standards YOU hold women to doesn't mean they won't do exactly as they please.

Another error. Women can be quite sexist. The sex of the sexist is irrelevant.

I never said women were "horrible" for having an abortion, that would be YOU.

No, "they" don't.

NO, Pro-Choicers are NOT against adoption.

WHY are there still children in the system if Anti-Choicers are adopting? What excuse do you have for them?

 

No, there's no "double standard"

It ISN'T sexist to say a woman should take responsibility and have the child, it's just wrong.

No, it isn't the same for women because women can have an abortion. Men do not have that option…..they can whine about that but they'll have to complain to the manufacturer of humans who made it that way

YOU SAID, ""If the mother doesn't think that she can provide enough for the kid on her own, then why would she have it?"""

I responded :
FoxHastings said: ↑
The VERY SAME QUESTION I HAVE BEEN ASKING ANTI-CHOICERS FOR YEARS!!!!

ASK THEM !!!!"""""


Why did you ask the question if you wanted to answer it yourself?

Having an abortion when you don't want a kid IS taking responsibility ….something no man will ever have to face..

Total misogynistic hogwash.


And the FACT remains that just because you impregnated a woman does NOT mean you own her....and trying to control her actions means you think you own her.

 

People have the right to take gardianship over persons deemed to be mentally ill or a threat to themselves. Thus I would be able to get a court to give her a 72 hour evaluation and then when they find that she is suicidal, and not in the right state of mind give me the power of attorney until she is mentally fit again.

So you are saying I should judge all woman as being uncaring people who don't care about what the person they were intimate with's opinion?

Well you are saying pro choice women seek out pro life men just to get pregnant and abort their children as a sign of
strength so should I hold them to be better or should I not and accuse every pro choice woman as just wanting to kill my offspiring

What you have insisted pro choice women do is horrible, knowing have sex with a man who they know want the baby of they get pregnant only to abort it because of female empowerment.

Yes they do, never been on reddit have you?

Because its costs more than a car in most states to adopt a baby. Thus why I want to make it free and safe. Also because people don't want to take in the older cheaper kids.

Oh its not okay cool then I am not a misogynist for being pro life then

And if the court stikes down that right, you will stop complaining and accept that if they get pregnant they must carry to term right? Funny how you have to Worship Chief Justice Roberts like a God, because this MAN is all that is standing between you not being able to kill babies and babies being allowed to live.

I didn't ask it, the other guy asked it.

Then why are you so adamant about men paying (not I think they should but still question stands) if it does not matter

 

But it's not legal to prevent her from having an abortion.

And where does it say YOU have the right to provide "monitoring" and/ or guardianship or get power of attorney??

Did you think you just tell the authorities that's what YOU want and they say, ""Oh, OK!" NOPE, doesn't work that way





Are you going to pick out women who have no family or relatives or friends???

Uh, DUH, you just can't say "I want guardianship" and get it !

Glad to dash your hopes of controlling/owning a woman you impregnated !

No, YOU shouldn't judge women at all but if women are judged they should be judged as all other HUMANS are judged...NOT judged because they are women.

ONCE AGAIN , I NEVER SAID THAT...You should quit advertising how Anti-Choicers "misrepresent" what others say..

Do what you want,,,,they don't care...

ONCE AGAIN , I NEVER SAID THAT...You should quit advertising how Anti-Choicers "misrepresent" what others say..

No, unlike you I deal in the real world.

So work on THAT....NO one is stopping you.....go ahead...have you started yet???

So I guess Anti-Choicers don't really believe ALL life is precious....

Which has nothing to do with the quote of mine you were responding to:
FoxHastings said: ↑
No, there's no "double standard"

It ISN'T sexist to say a woman should take responsibility and have the child, it's just wrong.

Hilariously incoherent rant again having nothing to do with the quote of mine you responded to:

FoxHastings said: ↑
No, it isn't the same for women because women can have an abortion. Men do not have that option…..they can whine about that but they'll have to complain to the manufacturer of humans who made it that way

FoxHastings said: ↑
YOU SAID, ""If the mother doesn't think that she can provide enough for the kid on her own, then why would she have it?"""

I responded :
FoxHastings said: ↑
The VERY SAME QUESTION I HAVE BEEN ASKING ANTI-CHOICERS FOR YEARS!!!!

ASK THEM !!!!"""""


Why did you ask the question if you wanted to answer it yourself?

Having an abortion when you don't want a kid IS taking responsibility ….something no man will ever have to face..

Sorry, I only speak English...[/QUOTE]

 

If the court deems someone incapable of taking care of them selves they give you guardian ship.

I do that I judge woman and men both who don't follow through with being parents.

You said "or she will just have sex with you and still have an abortion"

So it would be okay to paint with the broad brush?

You said "or she will just have sex with you and still have an abortion"

Well Reddit is the hub of the internet

Um needing to wait for the next election season, since you need to be in office to change things. duh

Oh we/I do, I just want to start at babies and then raise them all the way not start with kids half way though childhood. Its about the relationship.

How is it wrong?

And I said if that option was taken away from Father Roberts, your new kiss up would you whine?

That was NOT me learn to read!

Why do you care so much about child support bills if the mother wont change her decision to have the baby with out them? Nice dodge

 

"That was NOT me learn to read! "" Ever heard of punctuation? Sentence structure?

Nevermind that, here 's the FACTS.


YOU cannot just say another person is suicidal and have it be true.

The ONLY ones who decide that are the woman and doctors.

YOU cannot just declare you have the power of attorney....and get it.

YOU cannot just declare you are her guardian and be her guardian.

We have LAWS in this country to protect people from people like you.


If you don't believe me and common sense then call an attorney. They will explain how wrong you are.....

You cannot state you don't wish to control/own a woman and then say you'll declare her suicidal, get power of attorney and FORCE her to gestate.....that's attempting to OWN her.

Too bad your wet dreams won't come true but that's life

 

You go to the courts, you say "I believe this person is a danger to themselves" they court will order an evaluation of the person, if proved to be correct they will put them in your care until further notice. thats how that works.

If its determined they are fine then nothing happens.

 

Yup, that is exactly what I said. EXCEPT they will NOT automatically put them in your care. THAT is how THAT works! Talk to an attorney.

YOU cannot just say another person is suicidal and have it be true.

The ONLY ones who decide that are the woman and doctors.

YOU cannot just declare you have the power of attorney....and get it.

YOU cannot just declare you are her guardian and be her guardian.

We have LAWS in this country to protect people from people like you.


If you don't believe me and common sense then call an attorney. They will explain how wrong you are.....

You cannot state you don't wish to control/own a woman and then say you'll declare her suicidal, get power of attorney and FORCE her to gestate.....that's attempting to OWN her.

 

I am talking about if someone is under PPD (during pregnancy, if it was after I would just bring the case to a judge get custody, of the baby and leave the mother to fend for herself until she stops being an emotional burden to the baby and myself with her over dramatization of how hard it is having the baby leave the womb.) and suicidal because of that. I would not do this if they were not suicidal, I would just use other means, like risking their reputation to scare them into bringing the baby to term.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Yup, that is exactly what I said. EXCEPT they will NOT automatically put them in your care. THAT is how THAT works! Talk to an attorney.

YOU cannot just say another person is suicidal and have it be true.

The ONLY ones who decide that are the woman and doctors.

YOU cannot just declare you have the power of attorney....and get it.

YOU cannot just declare you are her guardian and be her guardian.

We have LAWS in this country to protect people from people like you.


If you don't believe me and common sense then call an attorney. They will explain how wrong you are.....

You cannot state you don't wish to control/own a woman and then say you'll declare her suicidal, get power of attorney and FORCE her to gestate.....that's attempting to OWN her.

I addressed exactly what you were talking about ...doesn't seem like you can face the facts nor address them...., you own NO ONE.

Again, your wet dream of controlling a woman and forcing her to gestate won't work.

As I said there are laws in this country to protect us from people like you.....you can't treat people like you propose to do in your wet dream....it's not only illegal but quite despicable.

All bullies are weak people.

 

That's not bullying they don't have to care about their reputation.

Also I have no obligation to give a dam about post birth PPD of the mother of my child. So I would do exactly what I said, go to court get easy custody, and then leave her to fix her depression by herself before being part of the picture. Protection/genuine help is only a pre birth privilege for a depressed mother of my children, one the babies out, I don't really care what she does in her mental state.

You know individuals can sign themselves under someone else's care, which I think would be easy to convince a depressed or desperate person.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Yup, that is exactly what I said. EXCEPT they will NOT automatically put them in your care. THAT is how THAT works! Talk to an attorney.

YOU cannot just say another person is suicidal and have it be true.

The ONLY ones who decide that are the woman and doctors.

YOU cannot just declare you have the power of attorney....and get it.

YOU cannot just declare you are her guardian and be her guardian.

We have LAWS in this country to protect people from people like you.


If you don't believe me and common sense then call an attorney. They will explain how wrong you are.....

You cannot state you don't wish to control/own a woman and then say you'll declare her suicidal, get power of attorney and FORCE her to gestate.....that's attempting to OWN her.

Your last sentence is what bullies do.

And I see you still can't address my post(above)

I'm going to let you have your little wet dream of torturing a woman.

Since facts don't seem to phase you I'll let real life educate you...……..you'll have time to think about it as you're sitting in jail.

 

Its not illegal to threaten to destroy ones reputation.

 

Yes, it is...it's coercion...and add kidnapping, fraud, assault, mental abuse, bringing false charges....I'm sure her lawyer can think of more

 

Coercion is forcing someone to do something through use of violence or threats, not saying if you do X I will tell everyone you did X. Kid napping is not what you are thinking of, its false imprisonment, also if I am the only one with a car (Gen Z really does not like driving lol) then me not taking them where they want to go does not count as that. "Can you take me to get an abortion" "no". Fraud how so? Assault is threat of physical violence so how so? mental abuse, by shaming her out of having an abortion "he didn't support me abortion our child so I was mentally abused" what false charged?

 

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OH, you're right...that's ANOTHER CRIME, False imprisonment! They can nail you for that, too

That statement is so bizarre...so you're going to only choose a woman who doesn't have a car?....and then the ASSinine statement that no GenZ(wha tever the F that is, is that 12 year olds?) will ever own a car....hilarious!

It's correctly , "Fraud? How so?"

Ya, lying about her mental condition and trying to get power of attorney under FALSE pretenses is fraud...also called "scumbaggery".

Forcing a woman to gestate against her wishes IS assault.

Yuppers!!

No, mental abuse is ""shaming her out of having an abortion""



WHY are you arguing with me???

Why haven't you asked an attorney? Afraid to???

If you do carry out your perverted wet dream, trust me, an attorney will be explaining it all to you...

 

Kid napping or ubduction would not work as a charge

Gen Z 2000-2019, from the people I have been around, even those old enough don't want to drive. So it will not be that hard to find people born in 2000 that don't like driving.

Its hard to find Gen Z's who like driving lol

It would not be a lie, I said if she was having depression, like some pregnant people do, I would report that to the courts. If she is not mentally ill I would not report that to the courts.

Who is "forcing" obstructing maybe but forcing no.

Lol, so im sure you would say the same thing about shaming someone out of buying a gun who lives with you right?

No judge will take a case where the father is shaming the mother of his child from having an abortion, other women yes but when its his child involved no.

 

" ubduction" ? What's that ?

Maybe "Ubduction" wouldn't work but false imprisonment would as well as a host of other charges.

Why? When was depression or mental illness made crimes?

Ya, holding her against her will and not allowing her to get an abortion is FORCING her to gestate.


Why do you insist that YOU make the laws as you go along....that's a total break with reality


WHY are you questioning this when an attorney could explain it all to you?

Are you afraid you are wrong?

But a judge will take a charge of mental abuse especially in relation to all the other charges they'll be throwing at you

Again, you can argue with me but an attorney( a PROSECUTING attorney) will definitely set you straight...

 

Suicide is a crime, so if you think someone is going to kill them selves the courts will step in.

I would not hold her against her will, I would simply with hold travel ability (not using my car) or financial ability (If I am the one making the money, she will not get a penny while even a seconds thought goes to having an abortion)

No a judge will dismiss it, especially one of these conservative federal judges

 

Ya, holding her against her will and not allowing her to get an abortion is FORCING her to gestate.


Why do you insist that YOU make the laws as you go along....that's a total break with reality


WHY are you questioning this when an attorney could explain it all to you?

Are you afraid you are wrong?


But a judge will take a charge of mental abuse especially in relation to all the other charges they'll be throwing at you

Again, you can argue with me but an attorney( a PROSECUTING attorney) will definitely set you straight...


Hey! What's an " Ubduction"" ?

 

My letter I will be sending to the president via email in a month about getting judgeship


I am writing to you, asking for the honor to be able to serve this great nation by being put on the federal bench as a judge. There is a lot wrong with this country and that is due to the out of control presidents set by previous judges that expanded the confines of the constitution to far onto the several state turning out federation into a unitary nation with arbitrary borders.


The biggest issues I see and that I will try to rectify if given such a position of federal judgeship, is three key issues, the first of which is the Use of the 14th amendment to expand the federal power where it was clearly not intended. The 14th amendment, clearly states 4 important issues, citizenship which is defined as anyone born or naturalised in the US who is not born of parents who are not under US jurisdiction, such as diplomats. The next is equal protection, this is simple, all laws must affect everyone equally it basically bans discrimination. The third is the privileges and immunities clause. The courts have taken this to mean that the first 4 amendment apply to the states. I do not agree, I believe it is talking about the privileges and immunities clause in the articles of the constitution “The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.” I hold this to mean that citizens of one state simply can not be discriminated against in any other state, meaning that freedom of travel, and freedom to live in any state are the privileges and immunities of the citizens of the United States. The final part is the due process clause of the 14th amendment, I take this to mean that the 5th through 8th amendments apply to the states. I do not believe any other part of the bill of rights can be held to the states without another amendment.


The second big issues is the interstate commerce clause. I believe this only allows congress to regulate anything that affects the economies of multiple states, it however cannot be used to regulate anything that is part of the domestic economic policy of a state. I also believe such policies like the war on drugs does not fall into the boundaries of the interstate commerce clause and would strike it down. The federal government has the power to regulate companies that make substances but not to punish an individual citizen for what they put into their body.


The third big issue, abortion, I believe that abortion is a state issue, not a federal issue and thus I would leave the regulation of abortion totally up to the stats, it was a power grab by the supreme court in 1974 and I think it's time that the states get control again over abortion. There is one big exception, that a state must protect the health of the mother and allow for abortions in life or death situations.


In closing, I would be the states right judge, that people want, California can do what California wants and Texas can do what Texas wants without interference from the national government. The United States is just that, 50 sovereign entities who come together in union for form a federal government but the power ultimately lies with the states and not the federal government unless specifically allowed to it by the constitution of the United States, the power grab must and and the power of the states must be restored.

 

Hey! What's an " Ubduction"" ?

Why don't you run your plan for forcing a woman to have your kid past your local police and see what they say

 

abduction wow so funny >_>

I don;t go near police, they are to trigger happy these days, tbh my chances of having to deal with a woman that will have an abortion is much lower since I am only attracted to white/light girls, and they have much lower rates of abortion only 10 per 1000 as apposed to my other half (im half white half black) at 27 per 1000.

 

Are you not capable of providing an ACTUAL response?

 

That was in responce to FoxHasting, who said I asked the question, that was not in response to you.