Mueller-Dämmerung

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    That you wallow in the ad hom sewer and are in abject denial of the DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE uncovered by the SC investigations makes you a supporter of your beloved BLOTUS irrespective of whatever nationality you are claiming to have.
     
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    It was also to deflect attention away from obvious crimes committed by top Democrats. The longer they could stretch out the witch hunt, the better their chances of reaching statues of limitation and getting enough power to prevent any more investigations.
     
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    :roflol: There is no fruit of a tainted tree fact to this investigation. It was empowered to go where the evidence took it. Indictments were handed down, pleas were engineered, convictions and sentences happened.

    There are many other investigations besides this one.

    Trump remains until the day after he leaves office an unindicted co-conspirator.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The entire Russiagate story is a hoax. You and many others, especially the Idiot Maddow, were fooled. The sad part is that some have not yet figured out they were fooled.

    The Russians did not steal Hillary's election, Trump and the GOP did, and the Russians had nothing to do with it.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Based on an unverified dossier. That is the poisoned fruit.
     
  6. James Knapp

    James Knapp Well-Known Member

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    Just watching CNN and they are still desperately trying to cling on to any hope whatsoever. They have a former prosecutor for the SDNY on there saying that

    ‘maybe the quality of evidence wasn’t good enough’

    After 2 years of having every department go full ahead boat that means there is no evidence! Or are democrats now doubting the FBI, DOJ, etc? Seriously, what do these people smoke?! Give it up, move on. Maybe, and this is a long shot, actually start presenting a plan for 2020. Does anyone actually know the democratic platform for 2020?
     
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  7. JakeStarkey

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    The fibbing is not working.

    There were plenty of indictments, plea deals and convictions, sentences, jail time, etc, in this one investigation.

    There are many other investigations, feds and states, going on.
     
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    80% of the indictments were for Russians that will never see a courtroom. None of the indictments have anything to do with 'collusion with Russia'. Total fail IMHO for the TDS sufferers.
     
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    Of course there are state investigations, the Democrats had to fall back on that because they LOST. Remember how long we have heard about Meuller getting Trump impeached? :lol: Give up you just look desperate and foolish now more than ever.
     
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    saveliberty, you know there are federal investigations happening? :roflol: You guys have taken some casualties, and Trump got a brief reprieve. Your losing is not victory. :lol: You seem as confused as flacaltenn and westwall.
     
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    I’m specifically talking about the ‘anything on Trump’ brigade. I’m aware there have been arrests for financial crimes on other people. They were investigated because of their connection to Trump, the main reason for this investigation.

    They probably do have financial crimes on Trump, I’d bet any big businessman is guilty of financial crimes if you look deep enough and go back long enough. One would be naive to think most businessman are pure, there’s a reason they have so much money.

    My main issue with it all is it’s a waste of time and stops actual progression in far more important areas. If there’s no collusion then let’s all move on.
     
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    It's been less than two years. It is that type of posting that puts off most people.
     
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    The following statement is inaccurate and incomplete: "My main issue with it all is it’s a waste of time and stops actual progression in far more important areas." The investigation certainly had many victories and has stopped no progression in any area. And, yes, the feds and the staties will continue with their investigations.
     
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    Twirling around in a circle crying "wrong wrong wrong" is not an argument for much. We all know about Mueller's "scope creep".

    It is not just Trump supporters that are calling the prosecution out on "fruit of the Poisoned Tree" Alan Dershowitz is hardly a right wing crony.

    Then as usual - lacking any support for your claim - you go on an ad hom attack. Is it TDS that causes you to act this way or is this your normal state ?
     
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    Boringly typical BLOTUS supporter response given their predictable inability to deal with being consistently WRONG their only recourse is to wallow in the ad hom sewer.

    The FPT drivel has been completely DEBUNKED but the Confirmation Bias of BLOTUS supporters requires them to cling desperately to anything and everything no matter how facile and meaningless it might be.

    FTR the CREDIBLE SUBSTANTIATION for my position is all there in the ORIGINAL mandate given to Mueller by the deputy AG.

    But that too causes Cognitive Dissonance amongst BLOTUS supporters.
     
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    You claiming "This has been debunked" is not proof of claim .. nor does running around calling names and engaging in ad hom fallacy prove a claim true.

    The basis on which Mueller was given special powers - special powers which allowed him to violate legally and constitutionally protected civil liberties - was that there was a grave threat to national security.

    This grave threat related to:
    • The Russian government's efforts to interfere in the election
    • Any links or co-ordination between Russia and Trump campaign-linked individuals
    The idea the cheating on one's taxes a decade ago - had something to do with this grave threat - is preposterous nonsense.
     
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    Kneejerk denialism on display AGAIN!

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-Mueller-special.html

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.4

    Needless to say you are utterly WRONG to insist that NONE of those other powers were granted to the SC.

    But don't let that stop you from posting yet another foot stomping hissyfit denial of DOCUMENTED FACTUAL REALITY!
     
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    GiftedOne's own words, "Twirling around in a circle crying "wrong wrong wrong" is not an argument for much", indeed, condemns his own argument. There is no circular argument. Mueller's remit from Rosenstein allowed him to go where the evidence led him. There is no tainted fruit at all other than in the anti-Mueller crowd's opposition.

    Mueller, iow, and his investigation are fine under the law, and those who say "it is not" have no authority to insist that is, and, thus, their arguments can be ignored.

    The Russians 100% without doubt meddled. There were contacts between the Russians and Trump's campaign staff. The only matter that has withstood Mueller's investigation is Trump's plausible deniability. Manafort, Stone, and others may yet provide the link that Mueller believes that ties Trump to the interference.
     
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    JakeStarkey is trying to keep some glimmer of hope alive among the collusion truthers.
     
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    Thought Criminal is denying the truth in the Mueller investigations: the Trump gang f'd up and Mueller is collecting them like trophies.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Furthermore AG Barr confirmed in writing to Congress that EVERYTHING that Mueller did was within his mandate and done according to the book.
     
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    It's a hoax.
     
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    Well written, entertaining, and exactly on point.
     
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