About 100 Russian milityry personal now in Venezuela!

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. It's all Imperialist yankee lies.

    Maduro is a just and benevolent leader. Long may he rule the socialist paradise of Venezuela.

    Garbage is nutritious, and delicious.

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    How many deaths of starvation in Venezuela in 2018?
     
  3. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Not enough.
     
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    So, you don't know.

    According to Hunger Map of World Food Programme, hunger rate in Venezuela is estimated as "Moderately Low", and Venezuela is in the group of countries like Columbia, Peru, Equador - Venezuela's neighbours. Also China, India are in the same group. Afghanistan and Iraq - the countries occupied by USA - are in the group with "High" rate of hunger.

    Link:
    https://docs.wfp.org/api/documents/...44.1264553537.1553780276-998120308.1553780276
     
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  5. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Yep, garbage and household pets are nutritious, and delicious.

    America should stay out of Venezuela, and let Russia handle it. You rooskies did a bangup job in Cuba and Syria, and you should work more of your commie magic in Venezuela.

    Good luck with that.

    While we're at it... America should stay out of all the other crapholes you listed too.

    Let them eat cake.

    PS- and, as a Russian, it's probably best if you just shut your borscht hole about Afghanistan.

    Your own 'humanitarian efforts' there weren't exactly a success story.
     
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    I'm just asking why is Maduro "dictator" and why is he "brutal".
    I still don't have any reasonable answer.
     
  7. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    He's a wonderful leader. Venezuela deserves him.

    Vive Maduro!
     
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  8. Mandelus

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    Could it be that the only problem you have with him at heart is that he is not an "El Presidente" of Washington's Grace?

    Would he be such a puppet by Washington's grace, would you probably accuse the garbage-eating people of being evil Communists, eh?
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    As I've made perfectly clear, I have no problem with Maduro. May he reign for a thousand years. Venezuela wanted a banana socialist republic dictator who'd thumb his nose at America, and their wish came true. May they live hungrily ever after.

    Nope. I agree with Ilhan Omar's foreign policy- keep America's nose out of crapholes. We tried to help her own craphole country of Somalia, and we got the corpses of our soldiers dragged through the streets as a thank you.

    Trying to set up puppets in crapholes is a pointless, thankless task. Trump gets it... bring the troops home.

    What do we care about Venezuela? Their oil? Socialism has destroyed their oil-extraction infrastructure, and America shouldn't waste a single dime rebuilding it. Let them drink their crappy, sulphery oil.
     
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    OK ... and what is about these sactions agaionst Venezuela done by the US?
    I mean ... if it is only for the direct US-Venezuela issue, you can di sanctiosn for your conpanies as rules etc. like you want ... but then stop to force others to follow your santions who have in the world another opinion.

    I was also in Somalia at this time once ... and the problem was that it was done with half butt will to get a real improvement.
    Anyway ... I don't think that Trump got it with the crap holes of US mercy in the world ... because they are still on this status!
    but it also contradicts some of Trump's statements ... and / or the expectations of his fans when he really says goodbye to the crap holes. Why?

    Well ... One criticism was that this weak Obama prevented nothing, that Russia intervened in Syria. Well ... that Obama has built general crap in Syria and elsewhere is right ... but what should he have done against the Russians in Syria?
     
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    Sorry, your English is a bit garbled, I'll try to figure out what you're saying here.

    Yes, America should apply its economic and diplomatic influence as necessary and advantageous to its interests.

    Wut? That's hard to parse.

    Anyway... no more "boots on the ground" crap for America. Hopefully we've learned our lesson that it's expensive, pointless, and thankless. As much as the anti-Trumpers want Trump to be a warmonger, he's just not.

    Yep, Obama was a weakling with his bullcrap "red lines in the sand".

    We should do nothing in Syria. Let the Russians prop up a psycho dictator. What do we care?
     
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    So ... yes, they shall force other countries to follow the US sanctions too? Ehm ... hello?



    In Somalia the US faild due to own incomptence! ANd sorry, Trump is an idiot and warmonger ... look on his treating against NK and mad midget? My red button is bigger, eh?

    Agreed ... sou should never have intervened there, because this is a Russian issue and job to solve, becuase their dictator and not yours ...
    But why does Trump not follow and still intervenes and provoked war with Russia there several times?
     
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    :)), "Before WW3 breaks out"?.....sure, russkis are willing to die ....en masse....for a crackpot SA dictator.....unless there are sizeable Russki speaking VZs that no one knows?

    But we did try to start WW3 with the Rooski in syria......hundreds of corpses of servicemen.....putinka didnt bite and crickets from the Kremlin?

    100 for 100? Ahahaha, that's funny, more like Marines, dont shoot, were here for the gold!.....how many Rooski spec ops and "vympels"died in East Ukraine from rag tag ukranian soldiers?

    Stick to beating up your so called "brahtooshkeh".....that are semi defenseless. You dont stand much of a chance against a real army.:))
     
  14. Jeannette

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    You're not going to get an answer, you're going to get the same repetitive lie:

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  15. Creasy Tvedt

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    Yes, we use our economic and political power to influence other countries, the same as every other country in the history of forever. Are you just now discovering this?

    Agreed. The US incompetently assumed that the Somalis would be receptive to law and order and peace and prosperity. The last 25 years has proven how idiotically incompetent that assumption was.

    What ACTUAL wars has Trump started? Be sure to list them all.

    I never said it was Russia's job to fix(further destroy) Syria. I just said I don't give a crap what Russia does in Syria.

    Trump wanted to pull all of the troops out of Syria. Democrats objected and criticised the decision to remove US troops from Syria.

    Who's the warmonger again?
     
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    Exactly.

    All those mean and hurtful things people say about Maduro are nothing but a bunch of Nazi propaganda lies.

    All those Venezuelans who are protesting against Maduro should just shut up and eat their garbage.
     
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    They might resort to cannibalism soon. Plenty of meat walks around in Caracas.
     
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    Oh my God, you people are right. Look at them eating garbage?

    Oops! my mistake, it's Los Angeles.

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    Okay, how about these?

    Oops! My mistake again. It's New York City

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    The US should do nothing, because no one has a right to be in Syria other than the nations that were invited in by its legitimate and UN recognized president. Keeping the Shia crescent intact that runs from Syria to Iran is a matter of survival for Russia, while the only purpose Washington has to be in Syria is to hurt Russia.
     
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    And I saw how US forces got blown up and shot in Iraq. Not sure how that's any different. The fact is, asymmetric tactics are an effective counter to conventional military forces.

    Anyway, I'm not sure what you mean with regards to Syria. Russia has won there. And that's a good thing. The alternative to a Russian victory was the ascendance of Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria.
     
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    Yes, I can. Saudi Arabia is just the most obvious example of US support for brutal regimes, death squads, and the like. There are many other examples, both historically and contemporaneously. Anyone who claims otherwise is willfully distorting the truth or embarrassingly uninformed.

    Nonsense. Saudi Arabia relies on us, not the other way around. If not for western backing, the Saudi "royals" would still be riding around the desert on camels and living inside tents. And when green energy eventually replaces oil and gas, Saudi Arabia's economy will collapse back into the stone age from whence it came because their culture is based on a backwards Wahhabist ideology that makes the dark ages look progressive by comparison.

    Only if you believe corruption to be a "reason" for doing something.

    "We" aren't doing anything. You and I have no say over US foreign policy. The US government is under the control of globalist oligarchs and their minions. A study by Princeton demonstrated using basic mathematics that the US operates as an oligarchy, not a republic. Not that this was required to demonstrate what has been obvious for decades, but it's nice to have mathematical confirmation.
     
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    Please tell me you do not believe that? Please tell me you just say that to have something to through out? Do you really believe in what you are saying?
     
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    It makes no difference. The US supports arguably the most anti-democratic regime on the planet, totally blowing your talking points about US promotion of democracy and human rights out of the water.

    Says the guy who supports the Saudi dictatorship that is starving millions of innocent people to death with the help of US taxpayers.
     
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    They jumped on us and we killed hundreds of them in short order.
     
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    I agree with most of your post. I have not followed Venezuela much but have not heard of Maduro engaging in serious brutality - this is relative of course but say ... compared to Saudi Arabia or ISIS ? What is your basis for this. ?
     

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