Like Pope Francis, Democrat Questions if Trump is a Christian

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  1. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    What exactly makes you feel so strongly negative toward Pope Francis?
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sadly, they do know "the difference" and don't care to live the Gospel yet laughingly/ lamentably cling to the notion that they are Christians. :roll:
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Please explain.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that too.
     
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    Before I respond, just curious... when did you stop beating your wife?

    I can assure you that I have no resentment to the poor, certainly no more than you have any actual empathy for them. The Democrats are exploiting the poor for their own political gain... this is pretty much well known by everyone here. The Democrats don't really care about Central Americans, they just want them for the potential as future voters … that's pretty obvious.

    Again, I have no idea who Buttigeg is, and I don't really care, and I don't think anyone else does either.
     
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    Sorry not what I'm talking about.
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK but be careful proclaiming something that you are not. I could care less since we live in a secular society. If you can compromise the Gospel than why bother to be a Christian?
     
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    And this belief is based on what exactly?
     
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    I've never met a Democrat who was a Christian. Ever.

    Hatred of America, Christianity, and morals in general are bedrock Democratic positions.

    Really, I'm surprised anyone would try to argue otherwise.
     
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    Carlos starts an attack thread. Someone calls him on it. He attacks the poster. Brilliant.
     
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    The Pope is Christian. Those who attack that are probably not practicing Christians. If they are then 'hypocrite' is the proper term for them.
     
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    wist43 does not give a good picture of real practicing Christianity with that comment above.
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm confronting the poster just like Francis is confronting Trump. Some Republicans claim to be Christian but live totally contrary to the teachings of Christ. Just like some Republicans claim to be patriots and do everything possible to deny veterans health care. After a while one comes to the conclusion that these Trumped-up Republicans are imposters. And why we don't want anything to do with them in California.
     
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    Two things.

    First, the papacy isn’t really a Christian “thing”. It’s extra biblical. I don’t believe in any human mediator.

    Second, he is very political and most of his political positions are antithetical to the teachings of the Bible.
     
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    I'm not proselytizing, or claiming anything on my behalf, just making an observation about the positions held by democrats.

    Feminist, pro-infanticide, anti-family, and overtly hostile to Christians. Is this news to you??
     
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    Would you care to be specific as to how I live contrary to the teachings of Jesus Christ?
    Do you see any irony here? Any at all?
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not anti-Christian but opposition to fake Christians. The kind of people to have no concern for the poor/ needy. Find every remote Bible passage to defend hatred. The people who for ages opposed interracial marriage and still fight to maintain monuments of confederate bigotry. Don't get offended. Get with God. Otherwise you do irreparable harm to the faith.
     
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    Ah, there it is. The obsession with who the president shagged.
     
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    Search your heart /morals. Would you want your children to act like Trump? If you continue to ignore the travesty of Trump without speaking out than one can assume you are faithless.
     
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    I supposed to care what religious leader thinks when he is unwilling to call out all the pedophiles that the church is covering for.
     
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    This is bizarre. Trump isn’t a spiritual leader. He’s our employee. Are you not a Christian if you don’t call out your employees for their sins? Did you feel this way about all past presidents? They were all sinners. All claimed to be Christians.

    Whether or not Trump is a Christian is between him and God. His policies are more in line with Biblical teachings than his predecessor’s. I wouldn’t question your faith for supporting him. Can’t understand it but it’s not my place to sit in judgement. Frankly, I’m flabbergasted we’ve come to the point in this country where Christians feel entitled to excommunicate fellow Christians over a political figure. If Christ wasn’t risen he’d be turning in his grave! :)
     
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    Pope Francsis did not just question whether or not he was a Christian, he publically denounced him. he said outright that Trump was NOT a Christian. He effectively excommunicated Trump. Which technically means Catholics who support Trump COULD be excommunicated for it.
     
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    Buttigieg cannot be a Christian because he lives in sin every day of his life.

    We all sin but the point of being a Christian is that you try and stop sinning and to improve yourself in the eyes of God.

    Trump has sinned plenty but I have no idea if he's working on improving that, he may be.

    We do know that every single day Buttigieg gives God the middle finger when he kisses his lover goodbye on his way to work.
     
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    The Pope is just a man, he's not God.

    Nobody gives a **** what he thinks.
     
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    Catholics should. The dogma of their religion says the Pope is god's emissary on earth, and that he is infalible in the eyes of god. By catholic law, the Pope has the authority to excommunicate anyone. This means making a public declaration that the person is not a Christian. and that they have no right to practice Christianity. For most people this means nothing, but for catholics, it's different. If the Pope officially excommunicates Trump, then per catholic law, any catholics who support Trump can be excommunicated for it as well. If this wouild mean that they are no longer allowed to be members of catholic congregations. A preist, as an employee of the church would be required to kick them out of face losing their ordination.
     
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