Brexit delayed to 31 October

What does any of it have to do with skin colour? It's always been about culture, and about self determination.

 

Times are changing, but human nature never does. 2 + 2 will always = 4.

 

While theoretically correct, in practice we are tribalists. We all gravitate to our own, and defend our own before defending 'the other'. The change to the appearance of this fundamental cave lore is international travel. Where once all tribe members practising the same culture looked the same, today they may all look different. But they are STILL a tribe - united by culture.

 

I hear Halloween right, for Brexit day.

Maybe a new patriotic song for Britain could be Bobby Pickett's Monster Mash


Just a reaction to this new flexible deadline for Brexit being October 31st 2019

Should play this loud and proud in London at some parade in London if Brexit actually is Halloween.

 

Brown people have been getting into their nation for over 100 years.

 

I want an extension until Guy Fawkes Day/Bonfire night for extra fireworks freedom day.
5th of November 2019.

If only.


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My point is, we should view Brexit as an achievement for self determination against lies and scare tactics to beat the odds and achieve, with fireworks, even though they'd be on sale Halloween, why not Brexit Guy Fawkes Day 2019?

 

And Brits have been getting into brown peoples countries and looting the natural assets for hundreds of years as well as for a while enslaving the brown inhabitants.

 

No more diverse? Country?
Ever heard of Roman Empire?

 

So they kill them. No big deal.
They kill those whities racists.

 

Get diverse, end like the Roman Empire.
Best argument for brexit so far.

 

Not id you are a marxist.
They know mathematics was invented by white old man to enslave the others.

 

Well, Roman Empire didn’t collapse because of diversity - rather because of corruption and mismanagement.
But in Roman Empire you could be a black slave one day and an emperor another. Such a change within a persons lifetime is very telling of how people viewed their differences.

 

Yes, 100 years after this happend, Rome was in flames by Elric the Visigoth. This was the beginning of the end.

 

The option given was simply to leave the European Union. To be just another independent nation like Japan, Nigeria, Canada, Chile, New Zealand, etc. Not like Norway, Switzerland, the Ukraine, Turkey, etc.

The UK "leaving" the European Union for a Norway style status would be like the state of Texas voting to leave the United States, and its legislature conspiring to remain in a Puerto Rico style loose relationship.



All of these options are varying degrees of staying in the EU or vassalage, except the status South Korea and Canada are shown as having. The objective of the negotiations was meant to be to negotiate a status similar to those independent nations, not semi-membership like Norway, Switzerland, Ukraine, Turkey, etc.

No deal was not necessary, the EU and British MPs didn't necessarily have to collude against the British voters. There could have been a good faith attempt at a free trade deal in this time, instead May has conspired her way into a Vassal state agreement.

This was all apparent on June 23, 2016. You could have predicted this down to a T... because I did.

Cool. I wasn't.

On the morning of the vote I was saying how Brexit would never be allowed by MPs to happen and they'd conspire to keep the UK in the EU. Why offer a favourable deal when the whole negotiation process is in bad faith and both sides agree on the necessity to remain?

As Yanis Varoufakis pointed out - the UK surrendered the instant they agreed to the EU's timetable for negotiations.

There already was a referendum. It was the largest vote in United Kingdom history. Both sides agreed that there would not be another referendum for a generation. You lost. Deal with it.

 

What do you mean? We want to leave the EU?? We voted to leave the effing EU!

 

By a tiny margin in an advisory referendum with no legal authority.

 

No, it was always about the colour of skin. It is only since that became accepted as unacceptable that it changed to 'culture'

 

That is true and no blueprint was brought out. However, the Leavers were always screaming that it would be dead easy for them to get a deal, that the EU needed the UK far more than the UK needed the EU and that they would be able to get a new trade deal in a couple of minutes to suit their desires. Hence although it is true that on the paper it just said 'leave' during the Campaign the leavers went out of their way to suggest it would be on an easily agreed favourable to the UK trade deal. Hence it is accurate to say that people did not vote on no deal, quite the opposite.

 

A Norway style relationship was one of the options pushed hardest by the Brexit campaign. Remember "have their cake and eat it"
No one campaigned for a no deal hard Brexit.

 

The EU is effectively based on the USA

 

Halloween well at least they have a sense of humour

 

Should have been April Fool's day.

 

It would be a lot easier to get a deal if the British side didn't agree to first give them everything they want and rule out what they didn't. This is not negotiation in good faith.

The UK is in a very good negotiating position. The EU does NOT want no deal. The UK shortfall will have to be paid for by Germans who are already at the end of their rope, or through cuts to Poland and elsewhere when Visegrad nations are already on poor terms.

This is going to end with 6 months of billion dollar payments to the EU followed by May's vassalage agreement with the backstop issue resolved being passed by Parliament after more bad faith negotiations/capitulations.

 

A new trade arrangement could be negotiated if the British side wasn't conspiring in the interests of the Europeans to get the result three quarters of MPs want and have always intended on seeing through.

 

Of course they don't, for the obvious reason they will get no more contributions from us, and it's our contributions which are keeping the ECB solvent. We weren't asked if we want a deal, we were asked if we want to leave or remain. The 'deal' was dreamed up by May as a way of not leaving.