Fellow liberals, know this: what you think you believe, is not what you believe

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Racist-porn? Are you actually trying to add validity to the OP ;) Maybe you might want to look up porn and then read the PF rules concerning porn and deduce what you posted and how absurd it was/is!
     
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    Funny how that "jumping" is done most often by the far right. But then, they also like to include "commie" "leftist" "Marxist" or some other garbage.
     
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    Ten posts would actually be refraining!
     
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    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    100% spot on. But forum right wingers love to repeat the lie that they hate whites and have created numerous threads with that fairy tale as theme.
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for clearing that up. I do see now that you were talking about some of your right-wing friends. But then you expanded to include others who you don't even know...

    So are you referring to your right-wing friends who come to forums, or all right-wingers, or a subset of right-wingers? Are you speaking of every right-winger on this forum or forums like these? Or just one or two? Way more right-wingers don't participate on forums like this, so actually right-wingers can wait. You saying that they can't wait means you are doing the same thing you claim conservatives do. You are saying you know what the right-wingers have in their minds.

    And you know good and well that the phenomenon exists on both sides. You surely know that a certain number of liberals, when confronting a conservative who did not agree with one of President Obama's policies, would claim that the only reason the conservative didn't like Obama's policies was because of his race. The conservative could make the point that he didn't care what the President's race was, it was the policy that was at issue. And the liberal would not believe that and insist that the conservative is a racist. Will you say this never happened ever?
     
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  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Right!!!! And if you don't cross the boarder illegally, you haven't committed a crime. And the large majority of illegal immigrants did not cross the boarder illegally.

    Man! Many have made the same mistake you did. But you're the first one to require like... 4 posts to understand it.
     
  7. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    What is your point? Even if you come here legally and you overstay a Visa you then become in violation and are an illegal.

    It's as if you just don't really get it.

    Do you actually get it? You are literally building a silly strawman.
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Then why does the left excuse such racist behavior. It's as if they actually embrace such things instead of putting an end to it.
     
  9. CCitizen

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    You are right. I am neither Liberal nor Conservative. I say:

    -- Many Liberals want to deplatform anyone who disagrees with them and that is wrong.

    -- Many Conservatives oppose supporting people who need help, and that is wrong.
     
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    Wrong: All Liberals want to censor opposing views. All Conservatives oppose helping poor people.

    Right: More Liberals then Conservatives oppose Free Speech. More Conservatives then Liberals oppose State Charity.
     
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    How does the left know what I believe?
     
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  12. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nah! You added all the validity it needed with your post. Right-wingers seemed eager to provide examples of how they "already know" the liberal's position better than liberals themselves do because they heard it on their wingnut programs.

    I know the forum rules against porn. But I don't do reporting..... If the guy gets off on watching racist pictures... sick as it is.... we'll have to tolerate it in the name of ..."free speech", or something.....
     
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    Whichever voice is appropriate.

    You're Pee Wee Herman from now on.
     
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    Understood, but porn?
     
  15. ButterBalls

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    Come on, I'm more of a Jambi.


    Put the chant to memory and it could get you an extra bowl of broth at the soup kitchen ;)
     
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    They will tell you what to believe, when to believe and how to believe it.

    Or you are a racist. ;)

    Right-winger: "You believe X"
    Liberal: "I don't believe X. I believe Y"
    Right-winger: "No. You believe X"
    Liberal: "Please show a quote leading you to say I believe X"
    Right-winger: "Right here"
    Liberal: "I never said that. Never. Not once.
    Right-winger: "Yes, you did. Right here. Here is the quote, you actually said that.
    Liberal: "You are so racist!"
    Right-winger: *sigh*
     
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    Well long as it works for the river swimmers it's a win-win :) Well unless you're wanting to argue crossing into the U.S. other than a port of entry is legal ;)
     
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    You chopped my post so I chopped yours :)

    I don't claim to know the mind of a leftist, you see how I don't use the word LIBERAL ;) I was just amused at the ridiculous claim that those pics you were commenting on were Racist-porn :) I quickly Googled it and you couldn't have been more wrong LMFAO!
     
  19. Golem

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    The subset of right-wingers who do what I describe.

    On this forum, I'd say a large number. Much more than half of those I have engaged in debates with.

    I'm obviously not addressing right wingers who don't participate in forums.

    Oh, for God's sake! Obviously a figure of speech. This thread is about political ideology. Not about mind-reading. Let's not go over the top!

    No. I do not. I am completely convinced that it does not exist on both sides.

    Maybe. But it has nothing to do with what I'm describing. I can see it happening in a discussion in a bar. Or your conservative uncle at a Thanksgiving dinner. But it would be extremely limited in occurrence (if it would occur at all) among liberals who would participate in a political forum..

    Again: it's not what I'm describing. What you mention is more like when conservatives say "you don't like separating children from their parents at the boarder because you hate Trump"
     
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    Racism is racism, and it's all too prevalent. Some fail to see it because their awareness is undeveloped, and some claim they don't see it because they are racists. But EVERYBODY holds some racist ideas. The worst are the ones that are consciously held with no intention of eliminating them.
     
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    Now there's another favorite trick of the right: generalization.
     
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    This forum is full of trolls and joksters. Why would anyone use this forum as a standard of what those on the right generally think? Is that what all liberals do?!?!
     
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    It's a human behavior and is essential to the ability to categorize and define things. I mean sure we could say all zebras have four legs so they are quadrupeds but what about the one that the lion chewed off?!?
     
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    I know what liberals believe. Sometimes folks get pulled into the rabbit hole created by liberals but if one stands back and realizes how dishonest the liberal ideology is then it all makes sense. The hypocrisy, phony arguments, fake news, lies, etc....is all for the "greater good".

    Liberals think others are too dumb to understand facts and logic so these "nonbelievers" have to be tricked and lied to.

    Do not worry. I just nailed it!
     
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  25. Golem

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    Yes. But you haven't committed a crime.

    And my point is that you came here with a pre-conceived notion about what I believed which you grabbed from right wingnut media, and you stuck to it post after post. Just like the OP says. That pre-conceived notion being that I, and all liberals (just like the OP says), are for open borders. You tried to find confirmation of this pre-fabricated left wing position (just like the OP says). And since you couldn't find it, you tried to force it on me (just like the OP says). And even though I kept explaining what my real position was, you kept forcing the pre-fabricated position on me. Just like the OP says!!!

    So now you know. Ask! Never assume you know the liberal position just because you heard it on the radio. Because you will be wrong!
     

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