Mueller: Russia sought to help Trump win but did not collude with campaign

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  1. AZBob

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    All that cash you folks wasted on tinfoil hats, could have been better put to better use, like therapy dogs.
     
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    And.... Congress cannot decide until after the house impeaches him.
    Until -that- happens - innocent.
     
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    So, when does the House start impeachment proceedings?
     
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    We have to remember what mueller found out, Putin’s ultimate goal was to spread division, chaos, and misinformation. He was well aware of the left in this country and knew if trump won the left would do his bidding in that regard. He was 100 percent correct
     
  5. Egoboy

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    You think the obstruction is the worst part?? I haven't read much of the report myself (golf vacation), but I did read the opening introduction. I cannot get over the part DisBarr left out of his 4 pager..

    the Trump campaign "expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts."

    Expected!! Not hoped or wished or wanted.... Expected... that word is hugely important, because it implies foreknowledge.

    I don't need freaking collusion. If there was foreknowledge of things coming to help Trump from Russians and they did nothing about it, I don't know the word we need to use here instead of Collusion, but I'll start using it now... Does Treason work??

    Once it was determined that Mueller wasn't going to indict anybody else, that's the EXACT sentence I wanted to see from his report.

    Laughable that DisBarr thought he could spin that part by leaving that section out, but he's just the legal guy here... Now it's up to Congress to do the rest..

    Good day yesterday. Yay America...
     
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    How is that a crime?
     
  7. Egoboy

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    It's not a crime... Crime watch is over..

    It's impeachable... assuming Mueller can prove Trump knew about any of the efforts on his behalf... I haven't gotten that far in the report, so no spoilers...

    (P.S. No way he didn't know some of it)
     
  8. struth

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    Of course they did. That’s not a surprise. Who didn’t expect to uncover how corrupt the dnc and the Clinton campaign was and who wouldn’t expect that to help with some swing voters?? Maybe you are fine with the corruption between the campaign and the dnc, but not everyone is
     
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    How does knowing something might help you politically rise to the level of an impeachable offense, especially when you had nothing to do with it and it happened before you were elected to office?
     
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    You are not qualified to speak for the operation of the mind. I guess embarrassment does create desperation.
     
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    Do you know what "impeachment" is? (Hint: it is not the removal from office)

    The House would be foolish to impeach any sitting President when there is no crime. This is not a precedent either party would want to set. However, even if The House does impeach, the trial is held in The Senate. The Senate would need some damning evidence that a crime was committed or a major unethical act was committed in order to rule against a sitting President. The House can impeach all they want, but if it is not supported in the Republican controlled Senate, impeachment means nothing.
     
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    You figure it out, comrade...

    I'll give you a hint... did you ever watch the final episode of Seinfeld??

    EDIT - A second hint... what is my favorite (and only) quote from Steve Bannon??
     
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    Ah. You can't explain your position.
    Thanks.
     
  14. struth

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    The one where they got charged with a crime and put in jail? Again, knowing something is going to benefit you, isn't a crime, it's not impeachable. Seriously, is this how desperate the left has become? Knowing the exposure of the DNC/Clinton corruption is going to benefit you, is somehow impeachable? hahahhahahahhah
     
  15. Egoboy

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    If the rest of the Mueller report is going to read out like I expect it to, Trump and his campaign committed acts (or more likely didn't commit the appropriate acts) that would be so unethical that both sides should be rushing to get the impeachment and Senate trial underway...
     
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    Lock him up!
    In the era of trump we don’t need trials to confirm guilt.
     
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    What's that?
    No meaningful response?
    Thanks.
     
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    Something is not necessarily "unethical" just because YOU believe it to be unethical and/or because it may fit a partisan political narrative.
     
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    Good.. you know your Seinfeld... although that was the easy part.....

    Now, what was the crime they committed?? Remember that Seinfeld is a fictional show and it's a fictional crime, although it's completely impeachable, and should warrant removal from office in the real world.
     
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    So you haven't learned your lesson yet about counting your chickens before they hatch?
     
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    How does knowing something might help you politically rise to the level of an impeachable offense, especially when you had nothing to do with it and it happened before you were elected to office?
     
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    Anybody that uses Seinfeld as an argument is not someone that can be taken very seriously in any intellectual discussion..
     
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    wait...a fictional crime is impeachable? Maybe you should read your comments before you hit the post button
     
  24. Egoboy

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    If you post the same thing 3 times in a row, maybe they give you a prize on PF.com??
     
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    Maybe you should read the full report, which is what I'm off to do after lunch.. Should be a good read, even with the DisBarr redactions...

    Very important document in American history...
     
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